Prospect Info: 2020-21 Prospect list for the polls

[Curufinwe]

I have a list of 35 prospects here for the upcoming polls. Let me know if I'm missing anyone, or if there are players listed here that you don't think should be included.

Removed from last year's list
Aube-Kubel, Nicolas	NHL
Bernhardt, David	Rights expired 6/1/20
Farabee, Joel	NHL
Kalynuk, Wyatt	Signed by Chicago on 7/7/20

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1	Allison, Wade
2	Andrae, Emil
3	Attard, Ronnie
4	Brink, Bobby
5	Brodzinski, Bryce
6	Bunnaman, Connor
7	Cates, Noah
8	Desnoyers, Elliot
9	Foerster, Tyson
10	Friedman, Mark
11	Frost, Morgan
12	Ginning, Adam
13	Hain, Gavin
14	Hogberg, Linus
15	Kase, David
16	Laberge, Pascal
17	Laczynski, Tanner
18	Lycksell, Olle
19	McClennon, Connor
20	Millman, Mason
21	O'Brien, Jay
22	Ratcliffe, Isaac
23	Rubtsov, German
24	Sandin, Linus
25	Serdyuk, Yegor
26	St. Ivany, Jack
27	Strome, Matthew
28	Sushko, Maxim
29	Twarynski, Carson
30	Vorobyev, Mikhail
31	Westfalt, Marcus
32	Wisdom, Zayde
33	Wylie, Wyatte
34	York, Cam
35	Zamula, Yegor

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[deadhead]

Is Sandin really a prospect? 24 year old SHL veteran on a one year deal.

 

[DancingPanther]

Chicago is gonna love these kids

 

[Rebels57]

I would also remove Sandin. Aside from that, looks good.

 

[Tripod]

35 guy....and how many have 1st line or top pairing upside?

1? 2?

 

[CutOnDime97]

Denis Bodrov?

 

[CutOnDime97]

35 guy....and how many have 1st line or top pairing upside?

1? 2?

How many in any prospect pool do?

And gotta be at least 3-4. Frost, York, Foerster, Brink. Maybe Andrae?

 

[Stizzle]

I would also remove Sandin. Aside from that, looks good.

Sandin is a tricky one. He's 24 years old and has been playing pro hockey since the 15/16 season. That doesn't feel like a prospect.

But at the same time, Friedman is also 24. The difference is he's only been a pro since the 17/18 season, and he's been in our system the whole time.

I'd say Sandin probably shouldn't be considered a prospect. Plus, ranking prospects with such large age gaps can really muddy the water anyway.

Edit: Vorobyev is another one. It's tough to separate the player from situation. Yeah, we own his rights, but he's got a 3 year deal in Russia. That takes him to UFA status in the NHL IIRC. Even I'm not all that motivated to vote for him, and he's one of my favorites.

 

[Rebels57]

How many in any prospect pool do?

And gotta be at least 3-4. Frost, York, Foerster, Brink. Maybe Andrae?

Zamula too

 

[Curufinwe]

Sandin is a tricky one. He's 24 years old and has been playing pro hockey since the 15/16 season. That doesn't feel like a prospect.

But at the same time, Friedman is also 24. The difference is he's only been a pro since the 17/18 season, and he's been in our system the whole time.

I'd say Sandin probably shouldn't be considered a prospect. Plus, ranking prospects with such large age gaps can really muddy the water anyway.

Edit: Vorobyev is another one. It's tough to separate the player from situation. Yeah, we own his rights, but he's got a 3 year deal in Russia. That takes him to UFA status in the NHL IIRC. Even I'm not all that motivated to vote for him, and he's one of my favorites.

Sandin and Vorobyev were the two I wondered about.

Unless people really feel strongly they should be out, for completeness I'll leave them in. IIRC, Lyubimov was left in for the 2016 polls when he was 24.

 

[FLYguy3911]

That takes him to UFA status in the NHL IIRC. Even I'm not all that motivated to vote for him, and he's one of my favorites.

Vorobyev would have another year of control after his KHL deal expires.

I think you should be consistent whatever you do. Sandin and Friedman are both entering their D+7 seasons. Include both or none imo. I have Sandin in that Laczynski/Allison bucket of players so I think it would be fair to include him. Sandin and Friedman both qualify for rookie status so there's that too.

 

[Stizzle]

Vorobyev would have another year of control after his KHL deal expires.

Ok, I didn't realize that. I suppose he should stay on the list. Although, I'm not expecting voters will even try to separate the merits of the player from his contractual status overseas.

 

[Magua]

I didn’t include Vorobyev or Sandin when attempting my own ranking. I just found them too difficult to sort out. I probably will keep them out of mine.

As for Friedman, he won’t play a game next season before age 25. I’d be okay with excluding him too. But his long-standing presence in this organization is easier to figure out ranking him relative to others.

 

[wankstifier]

35 guy....and how many have 1st line or top pairing upside?

1? 2?

Hopefully a couple of Frost, Brink, York, Andrae, Zamula, Foerster? Possible darkhorses?

 

[Adtar02]

Can we get a H or a F. Next to the names please

 

[Alex91]

Voro ALWAYS makes for a good debate tho lol

 

[GapToothedWonder]

35 guy....and how many have 1st line or top pairing upside?

1? 2?

I would guess that is the case with most teams, especially when you consider that players younger then a lot of the guys on this list get graduated off it.

Prospects like Patrick, Provorov, TK, Farabee all would have spent a minimum amount of time on this list while having that sort of upside.

 

[Curufinwe]

I think it makes sense (and makes it easier for me with fewer poll options) to leave out Friedman, Sandin and Vorobyev due to age/signing for 3 years in Russia.