Prospect Info: 2020-21 NCAA, CHL, OHL and European prospects thread

[NJDevs26]

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[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

your move Reilly

 

[Brodeur]

Playing Devil's Advocate with Reilly, he's presumably one year away from finishing his degree so he has more academic incentive to stick around whereas Drury/Rathbone were incoming juniors. From a CBA point of view, it makes more sense for Walsh to sign in the spring since he would have to sign a 2 year ELC. If he signed right now, he'd have to sign a 3 year ELC since he's 21. Vancouver signed Rathbone a couple weeks ago and he gets to burn his first year in 2019-20 but I think that window is closed now.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

 

[TonySoprano]

Does Vukojevic have a future here? I remember liking the pick but haven't heard much of him since

 

[Billdo]

@StevenToddIves still high on McCarthy? I am.

 

[StevenToddIves]

@StevenToddIves still high on McCarthy? I am.

Oh, absolutely. I would rank him just above Reilly Walsh as the top RD in the Devils organization, and I like Walsh.

Case McCarthy is just so tough to beat one one one, and his skating and outlet passing are both very good. He's never going to score a ton, but he's far from a liability with the puck like some physical, stay-at-home types. McCarthy is extremely tough to beat, especially down low. He just makes opposing forwards work and fight for every inch of ice.

I really liked what I saw from McCarthy at Boston University this past season. He's just the rock that allows his goalie and fellow 4 skaters to play their game and not worry. I would say McCarthy has a very high floor as a steady and physical third-pairing NHL-er with the possibility of improving his Seabrook-esque puck skills enough to become a good second-pairing, shut-down guy.

 

[StevenToddIves]

Does Vukojevic have a future here? I remember liking the pick but haven't heard much of him since

Yes, as a third-pairing Borowiecki-type physical, shut-down guy. It might have disappointed some that his offensive game did not really improve in his draft+1 campaign with Kitchener of the OHL, but that's not really why the Devils drafted him, anyway. I think the reason we don't hear about Vukojevic is that, as of now, he's probably behind similar-type LD Bahl, Okhotyuk and Misyul on the organizational depth chart.

 

[IceCold]

Bahl, Okhotyuk and Misyul are all 2000 born players and went higher in the draft. Vukojevic is 2001 born and the youngest of the bunch. Projected full season points Bahl 39, Okhotyuk 33, Vukojevic 32

 

[StevenToddIves]

Bahl, Okhotyuk and Misyul are all 2000 born players and went higher in the draft. Vukojevic is 2001 born and the youngest of the bunch. Projected full season points Bahl 39, Okhotyuk 33, Vukojevic 32

I'd say Bahl and Okhotyuk are both superior defensive players right now, better with skating/positioning/gap control, so I would rank them above Vukojevic. This is not a slight on Vukojevic, whom I really like.

 

[Billdo]

Oh, absolutely. I would rank him just above Reilly Walsh as the top RD in the Devils organization, and I like Walsh.

Case McCarthy is just so tough to beat one one one, and his skating and outlet passing are both very good. He's never going to score a ton, but he's far from a liability with the puck like some physical, stay-at-home types. McCarthy is extremely tough to beat, especially down low. He just makes opposing forwards work and fight for every inch of ice.

I really liked what I saw from McCarthy at Boston University this past season. He's just the rock that allows his goalie and fellow 4 skaters to play their game and not worry. I would say McCarthy has a very high floor as a steady and physical third-pairing NHL-er with the possibility of improving his Seabrook-esque puck skills enough to become a good second-pairing, shut-down guy.

Glad I'm not the only one who believes that is the Case. Pun fully intended.

side note, I am a bit surprised Bernard wasn't signed. I thought he had some bottom pairing/pk potential if for nothing else to be in Bing.

 

[StevenToddIves]

Glad I'm not the only one who believes that is the Case. Pun fully intended.

side note, I am a bit surprised Bernard wasn't signed. I thought he had some bottom pairing/pk potential if for nothing else to be in Bing.

Keep in mind, I was pretty much alone in the world in ranking Case McCarthy as a borderline first-rounder for the 2019 draft. I love the kid. As a member of a declining prospect-analyst community which judges defensemen more on defensive play than point-producing-potential, I think McCarthy is a prototypical bottom-4 stud -- a kid who can skate, hit, shut down the opposition and adequately move the puck up ice. He'll stand up for his teammates and be his goaltender's best friend. Nothing not to like about his game.

Xavier Bernard never really progressed in the QMJHL in terms of his play with the puck. Without the puck he was a good player, but not the dominant defensive force you want from a guy who projects to be a 10-20 point, third pairing guy at the NHL level. Don't get me wrong, I still would have given him a shot at the AHL level, but I suppose the Devils scouting staff soured on him somewhat, for whatever reason. Hopefully, the kid will get a shot somewhere else, and with the Seattle expansion team there will be a few more job openings at the AHL level.

 

[Triumph]

Bernard may be another case where they just did not see a spot for him in the AHL next year and if you're not getting that spot right away, when are you getting it?

 

[R8Devs]

 

[beekay414]

Gritsyuk could be the piece of gold we dug out of manure. Would like to see him in the KHL but his MHL production is promising.

 

[Guadana]

Highlights from this game. Gritsyuk is #81.

 

[HenriquesJawLine]

Last year's draft looks a lot better than it did on draft day. Okhotyuk and Misyul have a chance as the physical shutdown guy we're going to need to contrast smaller puck movers. Clarke has a chance as a shooter. Vukojevic I'm meh on but he has tools that haven't translated to offense. Thompson is the biggest surprise and he might even have top 6 potential. McCarthy people seem to like as a shutdown guy on the right side. Hope one of Gritsyuk or Pasic could be a late Euro skill find like Bratt. And Moynihan seems like the Swiss Army knife that excels in the bottom 6. That's an optimistic view but many of them weren't just throwaway picks like they were made out to be

 

[NJ DevLolz]

preseason?

 

[OmNomNom]

Highlights from this game. Gritsyuk is #81.

goal at 1:48
secondary assist at the corner at 2:19

those red and black jerseys suck and i can't believe the russians don't have audio for these games

 

[Devils731]

https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-top-100-prospects-ranking/

96: Kevin Bahl, New Jersey Devils

51: Nolan Foote, New Jersey Devils

9: Ty Smith, New Jersey Devils

 

[Ripshot 43]

https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-top-100-prospects-ranking/

96: Kevin Bahl, New Jersey Devils

51: Nolan Foote, New Jersey Devils

9: Ty Smith, New Jersey Devils

Exciting to see the Devils seemingly have some impact prospects close to ready. I was interested to see the Nolan comment since I recall Tampa fans claiming that they kept the far better of the 2 brothers. Last years camp made me pump the breaks on my sky high expectations for Ty. I’m just hoping that it did end up that a combination of coming into camp banged up/ a horrible defensive system was a huge part of why he didn’t get the 9 game tryout.

 

[My3Sons]

Exciting to see the Devils seemingly have some impact prospects close to ready. I was interested to see the Nolan comment since I recall Tampa fans claiming that they kept the far better of the 2 brothers. Last years camp made me pump the breaks on my sky high expectations for Ty. I’m just hoping that it did end up that a combination of coming into camp banged up/ a horrible defensive system was a huge part of why he didn’t get the 9 game tryout.

He looked tentative and sluggish to my eyes last camp. He seemingly started he year slowly and didn’t turn it on until after the WJC. He took his game to another level down the stretch. I think we see the development we expected at the next camp whenever it might happen.

 

[Guttersniped]

He looked tentative and sluggish to my eyes last camp. He seemingly started he year slowly and didn’t turn it on until after the WJC. He took his game to another level down the stretch. I think we see the development we expected at the next camp whenever it might happen.

I remember it coming out that Smith was injured in WHL playoffs and he had some lingering issues in camp and early in the season. It doesn’t really matter since he improved and if a really strong camp meant he would have stayed in Jersey then I’m glad he was bad enough to avoid that mess.

 

[My3Sons]

I remember it coming out that Smith was injured in WHL playoffs and he had some lingering issues in camp and early in the season. It doesn’t really matter since he improved and if a really strong camp meant he would have stayed in Jersey then I’m glad he was bad enough to avoid that mess.

I watched him fairly closely at the WJC and he looked solid but unspectacular to my eyes. He absolutely exploded down the stretch in the WHL so something clicked or maybe he just healed up. Either way it set him up nicely to make the jump to NJ. I expect him to be one of the beneficiaries of an expanded roster of those happen until the AHL can start again.

 

[RememberTheName]

Misyul just extended his KHL contract one year, which now runs through 22-23