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Just wanted to get your thoughts on Blake Coleman. Is he an important part of the Lightning going into 2020-21 or do you guys anticipate a trade?
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He's pretty cheap and pretty good so not going to be traded. We'd only include him if we had to, and if it solved other problems.
CupsOverCash
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He will be a part of next years team. Hes really cheap for what he does and we gave up a first for him. Although I guess if it comes to it they may attach him to a cap dump contract to get rid of it but I dont see that being the case. Same with Goodrow.
Came across a NJ article saying they should weaponize their cap and trade PK Subban with 50% retention. 4.5m still a lot for us. Maybe for McD? Though he prob wouldn't agree.
Do any of you see the benefit for both teams around of a deal around McD, TJ, Killer or Gourde for him? With whatever else would be needed...
Unlikely I know. Even if it doesn't solve all our problems could it at least help us trade forward cap for RD or shift LD cap to RD. Also only 2 years left on Subban and McD with his term could be an issue. With Serg's raise coming up I just think maybe it's too much $$$ on the left side of our defense. And it seems we prefer Serg on the left.
Not sure on Subban's level of play right now compared to McD? Is he just not living up to that contract or has he seriously regressed?
Thoughts?
Do any of you see the benefit for both teams around of a deal around McD, TJ, Killer or Gourde for him? With whatever else would be needed...
Unlikely I know. Even if it doesn't solve all our problems could it at least help us trade forward cap for RD or shift LD cap to RD. Also only 2 years left on Subban and McD with his term could be an issue. With Serg's raise coming up I just think maybe it's too much $$$ on the left side of our defense. And it seems we prefer Serg on the left.
Not sure on Subban's level of play right now compared to McD? Is he just not living up to that contract or has he seriously regressed?
Thoughts?
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The only way he gets traded is if we have a disastrous season and miss the playoffs. He's more valuable to us as a one-year rental than anything we could get back in return.
CupsOverCash
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Pk hasn't been himself for years. If I had a guess, he just doesn't have it anymore. I doubt we move mcd. I think it will be Johnson eventually. I think eventually our rfas sign for a cheap deal and we take care of them later. Thats how I see this playing out. It sucks for them but I think these guys want to win and for as long as they possibly can. They keep the team together they have a great shot at repeating or getting another cup soon. The rfas can get paid in a year or so. They take a little risk but guys before him did so as well. They got taken care of later. Its just one of those years where this might be the only option if they want to keep the team together and highly competitive. We will see.
mouser
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No opt-out rules for 2020-21 have been defined. Neither player rules nor cap/roster rules.
PJ817
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LTIR =/= opt out, correct? (speculation /armchair GMing here - Stammer's not going on LTIR)
mouser
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Fair enough. Just speculating under the assumption that there would be some cap relief.
We need his contract. That's why we paid the premium. Allows us to replace our departing players with an NHL talent, who just happens to make next to nothing.
Point21
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Would be a rather interesting pick up. Could have a defense of Hedman-Sergy, McD-Cernak, Chara-Foote/Schenn
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PJ817
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I offered up that op on another "thing" - I would love Chara with us (hated him when we played)... dude is a freaking warrior (still)... any team playing us would be:
EFF: that first line D: Heddy + whoever
Okay well, 2nd line: efffffff, McD + whoever
well, at least we have a good match up v their 3rd line: oh holy efffffinateor - CHARA?!?!?
they screwed and they know it
CupsOverCash
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That would be one way for chara to stick it to his old team but I feel like every time we play them he is noticeably slow and we expose it badly. Not saying he wouldn't help us, especially on the pk he would be a huge help. If we did pick him up, just give him limited minutes and I think he would be serviceable for us.
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If he’ll take league minimum with no NMC and agree to be a bottom pairing/7D and PK guy then fine; otherwise he’s simply too old and too slow and we don’t have the cap space to spare.
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Not happening, his contract is too long to be bought out. No team is going to take 8 years of dead cap. We can't buy him out because we had no arbitration-eligble players.
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$5m over 4 years = $20 *2/3 = 13.3 spread out over 8 years = $1.6M buyout giving us $3.4M in space, right?
Killer @ $4.5M over 3 years = $13.5M *2/3 = $9m over 6 years = 1.5M buying giving us another $3M in space
Total = $6.4M in cap space?
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it would be so wrong to buy out Killorn, i mean he is a great player and he could be great addition to any team,damn if it wasnt cap cruch i would love to keep him,if we manage to keep him and all RFAs i would be happy,thats why if we buy out him it feels sooo wrong
There is no second buyout window for us. Thats for teams with players who elected arbitration, we didn't have any that did. Our only options are to free up money through trade and hope the RFA's take really cheap one year deals.
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