2020-21 Hart Trophy finalists: Nathan MacKinnon, Auston Matthews, Connor McDavid

[Paul4587]

No surprises really. Personally I hoped Barkov would have been nominated but I can see why he wasn’t.

What other award nominations are still to be announced?

 

[WarriorofTime]

Weird, I was assured Crosby was very definitively going to be in the top 3. I guess they forgot to count those ballots.

 

[KCC]

Should be unanimous for McDavid but I’m sure there will be a few votes against him because they don’t know hockey or are biased af.

 

[PumpkinBomb]

Not that I disagree that journalists are largely terrible at analyzing the sport, or really doing anything constructive, but do you have any clear examples of the above? It's a fairly strong allegation, and I'm curious if you can back it up.

I do. I sent the link which has who each journalist picked every year.
The Norris votes are the clearest examples of reputation voting
The Calder is the clearest “pick the player I write for”
The hart votes I think show a lot of “make up votes” and what I was talking about with Friedmam

 

[MauDevils]

MVP aka Most Valuable Putter.

 

[Fataldogg]

3rd time MacKinnon is a Hart finalist isnt it? And all within the last 5 years?

Honestly surprised that Crosby wasn't a finalist. Expected him to be voted 3rd over MacKinnon.

 

[Goulet17]

I see some arguing for Draisaitl. Perhaps he is the second best player in the game, but can he be a finalist for an "MVP" award along with McDavid on the same team? On some level, it doesn't strike me as very intelligent, at least if you view the award as an "MVP" trophy. I realize that it has happened before, but it doesn't make sense to me unless the award represents something other than an MVP award.

 

[DonM]

If Colorado gets eliminated with another poor showing by Mackinnon, would this be the least heart ever shown by the trio of Hart nominees?

 

[Zamknij kurwa ryj]

If Colorado gets eliminated with another poor showing by Mackinnon, would this be the least heart ever shown by the trio of Hart nominees?

They may just have to rename it to the Wet Fart trophy instead.

 

[Sanchise90]

I know MacKinnon has an argument to be there but that 3rd spot was stacked. There were so many guys to choose from (Marchand, Vasilevsky, Barkov, Crosby), I don't really have an argument one way or another.

I'm just more curious of McDavid becomes the first unanimous MVP since Gretzky or not...

 

[Sanchise90]

I do. I sent the link which has who each journalist picked every year.
The Norris votes are the clearest examples of reputation voting
The Calder is the clearest “pick the player I write for”
The hart votes I think show a lot of “make up votes” and what I was talking about with Friedmam

Just to back off of this, the Vezina using Wins as such a heavy criteria. Robbed Ben Bishop twice of a Vezina...

 

[coopooter]

Mackinnon had 8 5v5 goals this year
Should not have been nominated

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Your Hart Trophy finalists everyone!

 

[Ivo]

Marchand snubbed big time here. Not surprised, since he is a hated character, but he had more goals, more points than MacKinnon, led his team in scoring by 21 points (MacK was actually outscored by a teammate), is better defensively and one of the most effective PK players in the game. Would like to know the reasoning for MacKinnon being over him for Hart trophy.

 

[wetcoast]

Marchand deserved a top 3 nom.

I agree either Marchand or Crosby over Mack for the regular season Hart IMO.

But does it really matter as almost every vote for #1 is clear right?

 

[LEAFSANDBILLSFAN]

This award should be renamed the Shinny Hockey Award. As none of these guys are anywhere to be found when the games become more intense and their opponents actually play defense against them.

 

[DieSendungmitderMaus]

Just to back off of this, the Vezina using Wins as such a heavy criteria. Robbed Ben Bishop twice of a Vezina...

...as voted on by GMs.

Which is one thing about voting, I'm pretty sure everyone agrees there's loads of reputation voting, but is it any better with the Ted Lindsay? The voting tends to be similar and it's not like players watch hockey all the time, so they'll be disproportionately biased by what their coaches tell them and of a guy happens to have a couple of great games against their team.

 

[McFlash97]

McDavids trophy case is already getting crowded .. except the main one is missing. Fully expect him to score just 90 in the regular season next year and go wild in the playoffs to fix the imbalance.

 

[Mulletman]

Mackinnon seems a bit surprising. I get that he's the best player on that team, but Rantanen had more points and 50% more goals. Makes it hard to say that Mackinnon was more valuable than him, let alone a bunch of other guys.

Dude, MacKinnon carries Rantanen. everybody knows that!
Just a few years ago Rantanen was voted as the worst player to hit 80 points since the 80s, that should tell you everything there is to know about Rantanen...

 

[North Cole]

Kinda weird seeing multiple guys 2nd on their own teams in scoring making the top 3.

Well one of them nuked the league in goal scoring. The other, a bit weird yeah.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Dude, MacKinnon carries Rantanen. everybody knows that!
Just a few years ago Rantanen was voted as the worst player to hit 80 points since the 80s, that should tell you everything there is to know about Rantanen...

This isn't just a hot take. It might be a volcanic take.

 

[Regal]

3rd time MacKinnon is a Hart finalist isnt it? And all within the last 5 years?

Honestly surprised that Crosby wasn't a finalist. Expected him to be voted 3rd over MacKinnon.

3rd in 4 years for MacKinnon. Though I have to think reputation was a bit of a factor this year.

 

[KidLine93]

Im more interested to see if McDavid gets a clean sweep of first place votes. And if he doesn't I wanna know what guy didn't vote for him

 

[Skate2Stick]

Im more interested to see if McDavid gets a clean sweep of first place votes. And if he doesn't I wanna know what guy didn't vote for him

If anyone does vote against him, their voting privileges should be taken away immediately.

 

[Spoilers]

Im more interested to see if McDavid gets a clean sweep of first place votes. And if he doesn't I wanna know what guy didn't vote for him

I like that the votes are made public now. It’s easier to know who to unfollow on Twitter.