BruinDust
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You notion that the D needs to be tweaked is sound, but you've gone overboard with the suggestion of bringing in Dillon, Hanifin, and Pietrangelo while retaining Carlo and McAvoy.
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You notion that the D needs to be tweaked is sound, but you've gone overboard with the suggestion of bringing in Dillon, Hanifin, and Pietrangelo while retaining Carlo and McAvoy.
No way I trade DeBrusk and Bjork and bring in another F Lucic who can't skate to save his own life.
We are trying to improve our scoring and some people still want Lucic back, even at 50% retained I want no part of him, he is not what we need, we need guys like Hall, Toffoli, Dadonov, Boeser, Granlund someone like that, maybe even 2 of them to help us get over the hump.
Whoops. Editing error trying to copy roster from Cap Friendly.
Coles notes: I added Taylor Hall, Brendan Dillon, Josh Anderson
Subtracted: DeBrusk, Ritchie, Kase, Moore, Lindholm, Backes cap hit.
Marchy - Bergy - Pasta
Hall - Krejci - Anderson
Bjork - Coyle - Studnicka
Kuraly - Frederick - Wagner
Blidh
Dillon - McAvoy
Gryz - Carlo
Chara - Clifton
Lauzon
Rask
Halak
Coles notes: I added Taylor Hall, Brendan Dillon, Josh Anderson
Subtracted: DeBrusk, Ritchie, Kase, Moore, Lindholm, Backes cap hit.
Marchy - Bergy - Pasta
Hall - Krejci - Anderson
Bjork - Coyle - Studnicka
Kuraly - Frederick - Wagner
Blidh
Dillon - McAvoy
Gryz - Carlo
Chara - Clifton
Lauzon
Rask
Halak
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Krug will likely be gone and I'm fine with that.
If we traded Bjork, Debrusk, Kuhlman and sought out some size, guys who get in the dirty areas... I would be thrilled.
It is very evident why NYI gave Tampa a hard time and so are now Dallas....hit hit hit hit and hitting. They don't piss around. They hit everyone. Stars or not.
Tampa likes to dictate the physical game, Dallas did not allow them to in game 1.
We are not even close to being that type of playoff team Dallas is, let alone Tampa.
If we traded Bjork, Debrusk, Kuhlman and sought out some size, guys who get in the dirty areas... I would be thrilled.
It is very evident why NYI gave Tampa a hard time and so are now Dallas....hit hit hit hit and hitting. They don't piss around. They hit everyone. Stars or not.
Tampa likes to dictate the physical game, Dallas did not allow them to in game 1.
We are not even close to being that type of playoff team Dallas is, let alone Tampa.
We hit “bring back Lucic” right on schedule guys. Congrats to all involved! Efficiency of a German train over here.
Magic comment BrainOfJ!
Last year there were several who dropped ideas like Kyle Wood and Nick Hague... that was at least wishful and creative! Surely there has to be a bundle of more interesting 'studs' than Lucic out there! Neely and Sweens seem willing to pay up!
We can switch the salary retention from Hanifin to Lucic if it makes you feel better.
I don't want Lucic back any more than the next guy but if your trying to get Hanifin you have to give Calgary a reason to do it.
They need a C by giving them homeboy DeBrusk you have given them a replacement for Gaudreau which they can now trade for the C they need.
Other than adding Dillon and subtracting Krug that's the same D as last year. Dillon alone doesn't fix the D.
I don't even have to think about that one, of course I do but you think your gonna get all that for a stay a home Dman?
The Flames do it to unload the Lucic contract.
Those 3 have scored more goals, come on ,they have also played more games so duh.
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I think your even overrating Calgary's desire to unload that contract. They brought him in a year ago, they knew what they were getting themselves into Edmonton retained 12.5%, and he had a good play-off. Not saying they'd be totally against it, but is it a high priority for them? I'm not so sure.
They might not be overly pleased with Hanifin's development, but they also have just 3 other D under contract for next year. Is shipping out Hanifin for another winger really something they'd be prioritizing?
Why are they retaining salary on either? Do they have a great need for more cap space this coming year? How much more do the Bruins have to give up to get some salary retention to make your Uber-D-Corps suggestion work in a cap system?
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Incorrect. You didn't make it work BOOM. Sorry.
You don't have the 1.9 million bonus overage carried from last year.
You don't have a 23 man roster.
Nice try though but you proved my point and should concede now. This roster is NOT CAP COMPLIANT AT ALL.
Move on to something else.
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Multiple people said the same to me that he was good on the 3rd/4th line and they currently have lots of cap space as well. There simply is no precedent of this retention taking place.
I am moving on because the cap doesn't even work on that fantasy team as I posted again below. Not even considering how no GM would make that trade as it's terrible for Calgary.
Physical game was fairly even that night, with the Lightning ended up having more hits. The difference was that Dallas scored goals and capitalized on their chances and Tampa did not score enough. Dallas has been making their way thru these playoffs by cashing in on their scoring chances, despite being outplayed for a good stretch of their run and despite their offense being mostly non-existent for the majority of the year.
Boston was also up 1-0 after the first game of the SCF last year; let's walk off from the hyperbole of " not being close to the playoff team that Dallas is " until they actually win.
I have a 22 man roster and as usual you didn't read it through. I still have the option of trading Rask and signing a FA goalie for and additional saving of a million or two. I also can leave Chara out of the equation and give his spot to Vaak for a saving of .5M. The overages can be split up over the next two seasons so I can exercise that if need be. The options are there, it may need a tweak here and a tweak there but it's fully doable.
Get a scorer- Hall, Dadonov, Hoffman, someone that can put 25 goals in the back of the net and shows up most nights to play. That has to be priority #1, or else we are doing this damn discussion all over again next year. Whatever space is left, or whatever deal is to be made, sign a solid LHD like Dillon who can play good D and give you 20 minutes a night. Scoring from the blueline could improve anyway- McAvoy and Gryz both have more to give in that area, McAvoy in particular. Who knows what else a season may bring.
So why is this magical other team taking in the rest of the Backes money for free again in an upcoming flat cap world?
Not only that but the forward corps are a hot dumpster fire. There's a guy who scored 8 goals last year playing 2nd line minutes and on the opposite wing, you have a guy who scored 0 goals in 17 games with his new team. None of the wingers after the top line scored double digit goals in the NHL last year so... WTF is the point? You have an improved defense that's going to be hemmed in their zone for the majority of their shift because the wingers are too slow or just suck to help move the puck up and out and when they finally do, nobody can score a f***ing goal.
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So you're going to not re-sign Chara and give his spot to a young D-man who by most accounts here of people that watched him in Providence, still needs more AHL time, just to save 500k and make your Uber-D work?
What difference does unloading vs. demoting mean for the likes of Lindholm, Clifton or Kuhlman? Their salaries don't exceed the thresehold for some of it to remain on the cap if sent to the AHL.
You can't trade Backes contract. He's gone, you can only trade the player.
You mean the same the D that helped win the William Jennings trophy for fewest goals allowed? So I subtracted Krug because we can't afford him really, added Dillon a vet with size and snarl (something we lacked). Our D is fine. Just can't have Gryz/Krug playing big minutes come playoff time because they get taken advantage of size wise.
We might lose a few PP goals but the additions of Hall and a healthy Anderson might make up for that and than some. Our main objective has to be adding secondary scoring. Secondary objective is adding some snarl that can keep up. I think I solved both, whether it's doable or not in the real world who knows.
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I don't think you can trade retained salary. Only the player.
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