2019 WUG/Universiade - Winter (Krasnoyarsk, RUS)

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    So, USPORTs has started the process of finding a coach and staff for the USPORTS v Team Canada Jrs and Team Canada at WUG
    - 2019 Winter Universiade is in Krasnoyarsk, Russian Siberia next year.
    - The proposed dates are March 2 to 12th. The University Cup starts on the 14th

    High Performance Program

    I couldn't find any reference to a salary, so it looks like a Volunteer position where you cover your own costs, plus the 'play to play' fee ($900 for TCJr and $4200 for WUG)

    I can see a number of coaches jumping at the TCJr positions, not sure about the WUG.

    No reference as to how the players will be selected - more to come I'm sure.

    This coming season was intended to be the AUS's rotation, but with the dates of the event in early March - the AUS informed USPORTS last year they would not be taking the lead role.
     
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    The Universiade for hockey would be a nice Christmas event.
     
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    The dates for this event always seem to be all over the place.
     
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    USPORTS posted an ad back in May looking for a pair of coaching and support teams as part of their High Performance program; USPORTS All-Star team, to play team Canada prior to the World Junior tournament (in Vancouver/Victoria) as well as USPORTS WUG All-Star team, to play at WUG in Russia (dates remain the same as above).

    No news yet. The deadline for submissions was June 14th.

    The team will be 'the best from the rest' as players will likely come from teams not advancing to the playoffs or eliminated in the first round. However, I doubt they will take anyone from an advancing team due to the FISU team roster filing dates - they like to have the paperwork, visas, etc. done a few weeks in advance, so taking someone from a team eliminated 3 days before leaving is likely not going to happen.

    Lots of logistic challenges to this approach - would have preferred an event date in late January or early February where a 'best of the best' would be likely and a USPORTS teams would only be out one player, possible 2 at the most and would likely not miss them too much.

    If I wasn't working, I'd love to work the GM office for this - scouting, planning, organizing - looking for 22 players.
     
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    Players would likely be coming from:

    AUS
    - Dal or UdeM

    OUA-E
    Nipissing, Laurentian & RMC

    OUA-W
    Toronto, Waterloo, Windsor and/or Laurier

    CW
    - Regina (Lethbridge is hosting UCup and not likely going to release anyone)

    Slim pickings
     
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    They'll have 8 teams from the OUA, and one each from the AUS and CW from which to choose. That's 2 or 3 players per team. Even weaklings can provide that.
     
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    They may not have access to first-round losers if the deadline for the roster is 28 days prior to the event starting (that's February 2nd) and most OUA teams will have one remaining weekend of regular season to play. That leaves you with 2 teams each form East & West for four in total, not eight, plus the 2 other teams from AUS & CW for a total of 6 teams to select from - 4 players per team. That's slim pickings.

    Balance this against the stacked Russia team that will be in the tournament and winning gold will be a challenge.
     
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    A significant factor that could play into this will be the visa requirements. Unless there is an athlete exemption for this, processing times can take a long time, with costs for expedited visas adding to costs that will add to your "pay to play" fee. The process and paperwork is tedious (speaking from experience) and costs even more if you hire a visa assistance service to help with it. Interestingly enough, the Russia government is talking about extending the fan visa exemption that was in place for FIFA, but I have yet to read anything in regards to delegates/athletes.

    The Russian team will be highly competitive and will no doubt be a favourite for winning gold, especially on home ice for both the Men's and Women's tournaments.
     
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    Yup - one more wrench in the mix.
     
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    A little bit to add here from the USPORTS release about the coaching staff for the All-Star game vs Team Canada Juniors.

    All-Star Game Press Release

    "Joining the bench staff are Graham Sirman as General Manager, Dick White, Chair of the U SPORTS Men’s Hockey Sport Technical Subcommittee and Western Mustangs head coach Clarke Singer, who will serve as General Manager of the men’s hockey program at the 2019 FISU Winter Universiade. Singer will work closely with Howell on player selection for the FISU Games scheduled for Mar. 2-12 in Krasnoyarsk, Russia."

    Not sure why they say Clarke will work closely with Howell on the FISU team selection since those positions (FISU Team Canada coaching staff) have yet to be announced (unless Mark is going to skip coaching Calgary through the playoffs?). I also do not see many of the players going to Victoria being available for FISU.
     
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    Some of the teams and athletes for Team Canada (FISU) have been announced - no news on the Men's hockey team though (as of yet).

    The schedule is out!

    March 2 - CAN vs GBR
    March 4 - CAN vs LAT
    March 6 - CAN vs SUI
    March 8 - CAN vs SWE
    March 9 - CAN vs KAZ

    Semi's - March 11
    Final - March 12

    The other pool is; USA (ACHA Players), HUN, JPN, CZE, SVK and host RUS

    Schedule PDF
     
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    Has there been any more info on player selection? Will the pool just be the bottom 2 of OUA E & W, DAL and bottom 2 of CW? They will have a difficult time against some of the other teams in their pool.
     
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    No 'new' info so far.

    The US team is leaving on the 25th. If Team Canada left around the same time - that would be a week after each conference's 1st round had finished and possibly some OUA/CW second rounds.

    From a 'FISU' perspective, the only real challenge to their pool is KAZ. LAT & SWE only won one game at the last event. LAT's win was 4-3OT over JPN - these countries do not send 'top' caliber teams to this event. The RUS team will be stacked, so you definitely want to win the pool and play SVK in the semi's who have also been a strong team.
     
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    FISU rosters are announced: Canadian men’s and women’s hockey teams announced for 2019 FISU Winter Universiade

    On the men's side, I've heard that the committee has been working on these rosters for over a month, in order to meet visa requirements/etc. As teams were eliminated and/or advanced to round two, the final roster was solidified.

    Interesting that, on the women's side, the roster includes some players that are still playing in postseason action, as well as some USPORTS grads that have maxed out their eligibility and are playing pro, but still obviously enrolled in some courses somewhere.
     
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    Yup we have teams and coaches now.

    I was hoping for UdeM's goalie, Montpetit, to go as well as St-Cyr - they'd be great additions.

    Not the 'best' team that could have gone - but the best team they could get. I don't see them in the top 2 - but I think the Bronze medal game is a realistic chance though.
     
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    Agree, those 2 Moncton players would have been excellent additions for sure.
     
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    Aren’t the schools or players responsible for covering some of the costs associated with the trip?
     
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    Yup - each player & coach (through some means, maybe from their respective program or family) are responsible for $4K

    That's why the AUS pulled out from being the sole provider/supporter of the team. Many of the AUS members felt that a team contributing 4 players and coach would be saddled with too high of a financial commitment (>$20K).
     
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    I was surprised that neither Dalhousie netminder (Connor Hicks and Reilly Pickard) were not on the team since they lead the AUS in save % this season.
    Of course it is possible that they rejected the invite.
     
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    I suspect there were a number of players who were invited but either for academic or financial reasons chose not to go.
     
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    so far...

    March 2 - CAN vs GBR - 12-0
    March 4 - CAN vs LAT - 6-1
    March 6 - CAN vs SUI
    March 8 - CAN vs SWE
    March 9 - CAN vs KAZ

    Semi's - March 11
    Final - March 12
     
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    In 2007 we played 4 games. Easy wins at the start. 5-0 USA, 14-0 Korea, 8-0 Slovakia and 2-2 with Russia. A very physical semi with the Finns 2-1 and a rematch with the Russians and a 3-1 Gold Medal win.

    The CIS can expect a good game with both the Swiss and the Kazacs.
     
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    TC loses to Kazakhstan 4-3.

    Edit: Finally found a schedule. Canada plays Russia in semi.

    Kazakhstan plays Slovakia in other semi.

    Gonna guess that Russia is loaded with KHL guys taking online courses.

    Games are Monday
     
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    The Russia and Kazakhstan teams are usually from the KHL's equivalent of the AHL.
     
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    Russia over Canada 5-1 in semi. Slovakia over Kazakhstan 4-0.

    Russia with 109 medals so far. #2, Korea has 14. Canada with 4: 1-2-1
     

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