Confirmed. Feels like this ups the potential of nyquist getting traded. Effectively takes Panarin off the board and the Jets and Preds still looking for help.
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Big for our Nyquist potential trades... Duchene & possibly Panarin off the board
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Because I think it is a waste of assets to improve our backup goalie? I don't think that Malcolm Subban is anything more than a decent backup, so why would I spend any draft capital or player capital acquiring him when we will not be contending for anything?
AA isn't getting benched for effort this year. Even when he was scoring ~18 goals a year, he was getting benched like every 5th or 6th game.
And AA fell to the 4th round because of run ins with coaches and perceived compete and hockey IQ questions.
Why do people act like there weren't actual concerns about AA? He's a fabulously talented player. He also doesn't get the max out of that talent. He seems to be playing more consistently aggressive this year.
On the other hand, Ottawa confirmed Stone is available. Still, Should be less two big fish available on deadline day.
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I actually disagree with this. I think he's pretty much the same player he was before. I still see plenty of moments where it looks like he's being "lazy" or whatever just like before. I think he's putting up more points than before so everyone automatically looks to that "he's definitely working harder now" narrative. If he was giving the same exact effort but had 15 less points people would still be saying he's lazy IMO.
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That's actually a decent return for a rental that was likely walking. Hopefully Nyquist at least fetches us a 1st.
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To be fair, due to not having cable nor the inclination to dig up streams... I only see about every 5th or 6th game. And the times I have watched, AA is dangerous as hell. And... I know this isn't a high bar to clear, but they're not openly criticizing his effort on the radio anymore. Like last season, 97.1's guys would actually point out... AA has been a dog. Now, they don't talk about him at all.
But bigger, he isn't getting the "sit on the bench for the entire third period of a game" treatment anymore.
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Because AA is a fabulously talented player he has a mob of fans who keep their torches lit and pitchforks sharp just in case someone should offer some criticism.
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Fair enough, and I wasn't trying to call you out or anything, we are certainly all entitled to our opinions. My overall point was that counting statistics in sports cloud our judgement, mine included.
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So with Duchene and probably Panarin off the trade market, it leaves
Stone
Nyquist/ Zuccarello/ Hayes
Simmonds/ Ferland/ Dzingel
as the "big" F rental options
I've tiered it in 3 chunks, I think Stone pulls in 1st+, and then Nyquist/ Zuccarello/ Hayes coming around ~1st or 2nd+ and the third group of Simmonds/ Ferland/ Dzingel being more creative offers or not really registering for me as guys who will garner a 1st type of return
I think for NYR and Detroit to maximize their returns they should package their guys, I'd imagine a team like Dallas or Winnipeg would really love Hayes and Zuccarello and would give their 1st++
Same with Wings and some combo of Nyquist, Howard, or Jensen going together to bring in a surefire 1st with some additions put on
Stone
Nyquist/ Zuccarello/ Hayes
Simmonds/ Ferland/ Dzingel
as the "big" F rental options
I've tiered it in 3 chunks, I think Stone pulls in 1st+, and then Nyquist/ Zuccarello/ Hayes coming around ~1st or 2nd+ and the third group of Simmonds/ Ferland/ Dzingel being more creative offers or not really registering for me as guys who will garner a 1st type of return
I think for NYR and Detroit to maximize their returns they should package their guys, I'd imagine a team like Dallas or Winnipeg would really love Hayes and Zuccarello and would give their 1st++
Same with Wings and some combo of Nyquist, Howard, or Jensen going together to bring in a surefire 1st with some additions put on
Personally I think the Jets are the best fit. They can use an upgrade on their 2nd line and Nyquist is the perfect player to jumpstart Laine.
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Yeah DUchene to COlumbus is good for Detroit. Essentially takes Panarin off the table, Stone is really the only guy that I would expect to be a bigger fish. Some teams might want the toughness of a guy like Simmonds orr Ferland more but overall theres Stone and a mix of 3 or so guys that will be looked at next and Nyquist is one of them. I could see the Jets and Preds being interested, the Flames potentially, the Isles, Caps as well. This trade helps that market a lot.
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My first impression was Columbus got Duchene so they have a player and can now trade Panarin before TDL. I thought they might have a plan in place to sign Duschene and Parnarin is as good as gone. Same with Bob. Maybe they want Howard to replace him and Howard is conveniently sick tonight.
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