WJC: 2019 Team USA Roster Talk

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  1. William H Bonney

    William H Bonney Registered User

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    My guess at the potential summer camp roster for the 2019 tournament:

    Forwards (x24):

    Evan Barratt
    Sasha Chmelevksi
    Logan Cockerill
    Cole Coskey
    Jack DeBoer
    Sean Dhooghe
    Joel Farabee
    Patrick Giles
    Jonathan Gruden
    Gavin Hain
    Curtis Hall
    Jack Hughes
    Logan Hutsko
    Ivan Lodnia
    Blake McLaughlin
    Erik Middendorf
    Grant Mismash
    Josh Norris
    Jake Pivonka
    Ryan Poehling
    Jason Robertson
    Brady Tkachuk
    Oliver Wahlstrom
    Jake Wise

    Defense (x15):

    Mikey Anderson
    David Farrance
    Max Gildon
    Quinn Hughes
    Phil Kemp
    Graham Lillibridge
    K’Andre Miller
    Ben Mirageas
    Alec Regula
    Dylan Samberg
    Adam Samuelsson
    Mattias Samuelsson
    Spencer Stastney
    Reilly Walsh
    Bode Wilde

    Goalies (x4):

    Drew DeRidder
    Keith Petruzzelli
    Dylan St. Cyr
    Cayden Primeau

    Notes:
    • There are 6 potential returnees and only Tkachuk is a threat to be in the NHL. There's certainly a good chance he's in the NHL, but right now I'd imagine he's more likely to be back at BU.
    • The forward depth isn't great. The '99 forward group is average. There's better top-end forward talent in the '00s, but there's not an elite star in that group and the talent in that group isn't what it was once hoped to be with guys like Wise having disappointed.
    • There's pretty good depth on the back-end with Samberg and Hughes definitely the go-to guys to start.
    • Looking at the goalie options, it's even crazier that they didn't choose to bring along a guy that could return in 2019, especially since Swayman was never going to get a chance. Mind boggling decision by USAH.
    Without knowing what the other rosters will be, it's probably a team that you hope can sneak out of there with a bronze medal if things go really well. Reminds me a bit of this year's team except the star forward will be a 17-year old instead of 19-year old and the goalies will be a clear weakness.
     
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  2. Jaykay

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    Tkachuk-Poehling-Wahlstrom
    Farabee-Norris-Lodnia
    Robertson-Hughes-Reedy
    Barratt-Mismash-Giles
    Wise

    Samberg-Wilde
    Hughes-Kemp
    Anderson-Walsh
    Gildon

    Primeau
    Petruzzelli
    DeRidder
     
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    99664987 Dubas is God

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    Do you think Motzko will be back? This tournament obviously didn’t go all too well, and his goaltending decisions were suspect, but he rallied his team from being behind twice with admirable levels of success, and the US had by far the best system in this tournament IMO. He also seems to generally get the most out of his players and put people in opportunities for success.
     
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    I hope not. Good coach but I like having a new set of eyes.
     
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    It's time to start looking forward to next year.

    Goaltenders

    Cayden Primeau (Northeastern Univ.)
    Best guess to be US number one next year. I am suprised he wasnt third goalie this year but has been pretty good this year in Northeastern and when his competitors struggling at the moment you have to hope he can continue improving and be number one next year.

    Dylan St.Cyr (Univ. of Notre Dame)
    Undersized goalie who was excellent in U18s. Now has been outplayed in Notre Dame and have to improve next year.

    Keith Petruzzelli (Quinnipiac Univ.)
    Struggling at the moment in NCAA. Has been outplayed in Quinnipiac and have to improve a lot in next year if he want to be in this team.

    Adam Scheel (Penticton Vees)
    Dark horse but has been really good in BCHL this season. If he can continue same way in North Dakota next season there is chance for him. Has been part of NTDP so USA hockey knows him very well. Reminds me Hunter Miska situation who saved his career in BCHL after struggling in NTDP. Then he was excellent in NCAA and signed NHL contract after one season.

    Drew DeRidder (USNTDP Juniors)
    Probably best 2000 born goalie from US at the moment. Then there is Mor, Kraws and Saville. Ullan and Karki was dropper from NTDP after last season so i dont believe they can bounce back well enough.

    Defenders

    Favourites:
    Quinn Hughes
    Michael Anderson
    Philip Kemp
    Reilly Walsh
    Dylan Samberg
    Max Gildon
    Benjamin Mirageas
    David Farrance
    Bode Wilde
    K'Andre Miller
    Mattias Samuelsson
    Adam Samuelsson

    Others:
    Clayton Phillips
    Jack Rathbone
    Tyler Inamoto
    Tommy Miller
    Joshua Ess
    Matt Anderson
    Nate Knoepke
    Chase Hartje
    Ty Emberson
    Stanislav Demin

    This group is slightly harder because there is always some freshmens who will suprise everyone.

    My early picks:
    Hughes-Samberg
    Gildon-Walsh
    Anderson-Kemp
    Wilde

    Forwards

    Favourites:
    Brady Tkachuk
    Joshua Norris
    Ryan Poehling
    Oliver Wahlstrom
    Jack Hughes
    Grant Mismash
    Joel Farabee
    Evan Barratt
    Jason Robertson
    Ivan Lodnia
    Alexander Chmelevski

    Others:
    Graham Slaggert
    Scott Reedy
    Logan Cockerill
    Jacob Tortora
    Sean Dhooghe
    Michael Pastujov
    Jay O'Brien
    Cole Guttman
    Noah Cates
    Jack Drury
    Johnny Gruden
    Blade Jenkins
    Tyler Madden
    Blake McLaughlin
    Jacob Pivonka

    My early picks:
    Tkachuk-Norris-Wahlstrom
    Farabee-Poehling-Hughes
    Robertson-Mismash-Lodnia
    Cockerill-Barratt-Chmelevski
    Dhooghe
     
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    Chainshot Give 'em Enough Rope

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    Looking at that forward group, I am left wondering who is going to score outside of the top line.
     
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    I feel like next year might be a bit of a down year for USA and Canada.
     
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    I’m not worried, we’ll have a much stronger 19 year old group than almost anyone else.
     
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    I guess I am just not a huge fan of our group of 99's. You never know though a year is a ton of development time at this age group.
     
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    Defense will be the strength of the team. There are some top-end guys and a ton of depth.

    Forward group certainly doesn't seem nearly as good on paper but they still have a year to develop.

    Goaltending seems like a huge wild card at this point but if Primeau keeps playing the way he is, it could be better than it was this year.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised to see Turcotte invited
     
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    I think after a year of development next year's team wont be any worse than this years. Guys like Yamamoto and Brown never really got going this year, and the team still succeeded for the most part with depth. If Tkachuk comes back, he, along with, Wahlstrom, Farabee, Jack Hughes, are good high end talent, with depth in Poehling, Norris, Lodnia, Mismash (who is having a great year it looks for a freshman) etc I can see a good team. hopefully a few of the current NTDP U18 defensemen have big years (Wilde, Samuelsson, Miller etc)
     
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    of course Bonney has to start this up already lol!!
     
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    Next years team has great talent. Been waiting for Wahlstrom, Wilde, Wise etc... They havent hit their stride yet...hopefully.

    And J. Hughes is the real deal.
     
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    This is way too early as the rest of the season, especially the IIHF U18, will help determine so much, but an early guess:

    Forwards (x13):
    Brady Tkachuk (C) - Ryan Poehling - Ivan Lodnia
    Grant Mismash - Jack Hughes - Oliver Wahlstrom
    Joel Farabee - Josh Norris - Jason Robertson
    Blake McLaughlin - Evan Barratt - Sasha Chmelevksi
    Jonathan Gruden

    Defense (x7):
    Dylan Samberg - Bode Wilde
    Quinn Hughes - Mikey Anderson
    Ben Mirageas - Alec Regula
    Reilly Walsh

    Goalies (x3):
    Cayden Primeau
    Keith Petruzzelli
    Spencer Knight
    Notes:
    • You could make strong cases for a lot of forwards, especially after you get past the top 6-8 guys.
    • I'm especially interested to see which U18s (if any) beyond Wahlstrom/Farabee make a strong case for the team.
    • There's a lot of options on defense and a lot of guys have realistic chances right now. There always seems to be a guy that comes out of nowhere to make the roster. Will Regula be that guy?
    • The goalies are a crapshoot. Primeau's the best candidate right now, but a lot can change in a year (see this year's goalies). I wouldn't be surprised to see an underage goalie (likely Knight, possibly Wolf?) make it.
    • When evaluating 17/18 year old hockey prospects, this outlook is bound to change a lot in 4 months, but it's fun to see how wrong I can be right after the 2018 WJC.
     
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    Lodnia looks to be a good player. Has a Czech/Slovak sounding name.
     
  18. William H Bonney

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    His family immigrated to California from Ukraine.
     
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    I'm surprised if Tkachuk doesn't make it to the NHL next season. He will be probably drafted 4th or 5th and will join one of the bottom teams in the league, where it's easier to make it as well.
     
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    I'd be surprised if Tkachuk isn't on this team again next year. Remember, immediately prior to the tournament this was a player that a number of posters (wrongly) didn't think should even make the team.

    He had a great tournament - but he has only been solid/good at BU. Not spectacular. He currently has four goals as a FR. For comparisons' sake Keller had 21. Someone will draft him high and be thrilled to death to give him another year of free development with BU and USA hockey and he'll be better for it. Especially with the game he wants to play when he does get to the NHL...
     
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    Never under estimate some teams ability to rush players when they shouldn't. I don't doubt that he should be back next year but with top picks you literally never know what teams will do with them. Really depends on the team that ends up picking him up.
     
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    I really hope USAH takes a good look at Chemvelski. Creative playmaking center with good hands, vision, and decent on the face offs
     
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    Hey Bonney, just curious, do you have your roster guess for this 2018 team from last year? I'm not judging just trying to get a feel for how many of these kids are known (at this time of year - 1 yr in advance) and how many will come out of relative obscurity.
     
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    If you go to the first pages of the 2018 USA Roster thread you'll see a year's worth of predictions.
     
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    This was my after-tournament guess last year:

    I had 10 of the 13 forwards. Keller obviously proved he didn't need another year and I had Lodnia/Robertson on the team instead of Tufte/Harper.

    I only had 3 of the 7 d-men. Really shows how quickly things can change at these age levels as Samberg and Perunovich weren't really on most anyone's radar a year ago, Anderson was known but not a strong contender, and Hughes was obviously very good but the IIHF U18 is critical to baselining the U18 guys.

    I had 2 of the 3 goalies, but I should have been 3 for 3 because we should have taken a '99 and Primeau would have been the obvious choice : )
     

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