Transfer: 2019 Summer Transfers News, Rumors, and Discussion; Part 9

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Sport Bild is now saying that Bayern won't sign Roca because they question his defensive ability. Bayern needs another CDM, so I don't understand this decision.

Paris United are saying that Guerreiro and PSG are meeting, which has promptly been denied by Guerreiro. I think he wants to leave and the club wants him to leave, but I think it's a matter of finding someone to pay a transfer fee for him to leave. The club is not going to give him away for free. We don't need 5-10M that badly. He can help our squad this season and then leave next season, if no one wants to pay for him.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Schick has supposedly decided for Leipzig over Dortmund. Dortmund is now going to try to sign Milik from Napoli. Icardi signing with Napoli might help that deal get over the line.

Dortmund are interested in signing Camavinga next summer. The last superstar youngster at Rennes ended up at Dortmund over some bigger clubs. Dortmund has a good relationship with Rennes because both are sponsored by Puma, so we might have one of the better chances in Europe to sign Camavinga when he leaves Rennes.

Papers in Germany say that Bayern are in the lead to sign Havertz next summer. They could have a much better transfer window next summer if they can add Havertz, Nubel, Sane and Werner. That would be a very strong transfer window.

I still think Rennes did very bad with the Dembele deal, they should have got a significant higher fee or at least higher % on the resale. Also Camavinga I believe will stay one more year with Rennes. He is the best 16 years old midfielder that I have witnessed but he needs more playing time.

 

[phisherman]

I still think Rennes did very bad with the Dembele deal, they should have got a significant higher fee or at least higher % on the resale. Also Camavinga I believe will stay one more year with Rennes. He is the best 16 years old midfielder that I have witnessed but he needs more playing time.

Better than Cesc?

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Better than Cesc?

Yes. Camavinga reminds me of Seedorf. He is amazing at everything. He will become a dominant player and he will dominate for many years. His poise and awareness are out of this world. He is amazing in distributing passes but also he can dribbles with ease to open space and beat high pressure team. He is also very strong physicaly for a 16 years old. Any team that get him (whatever the price) will not regret it.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Timo Werner has signed a new contract with RB Leipzig. However, there supposedly is a low release clause in the contract. Bayern is obviously the most likely destination next summer.

 

[Bon Esprit]

Timo Werner has signed a new contract with RB Leipzig. However, there supposedly is a low release clause in the contract. Bayern is obviously the most likely destination next summer.

It's two years and a release clause of 30m. A joke. But better than nothing.

 

[hatterson]

It's two years and a release clause of 30m. A joke. But better than nothing.

I’m seeing a bunch of articles say 4 year.

The low release clause was probably needed or else he would have just refused to sign and walked next summer.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

It's two years and a release clause of 30m. A joke. But better than nothing.

It's 4 years.

 

[Bon Esprit]

I’m seeing a bunch of articles say 4 year.

The low release clause was probably needed or else he would have just refused to sign and walked next summer.

That's correct, it's 4 years. My bad.

 

[cgf]

Seems to be a mix of 30M + 1 more season of Werner, being better than losing him now or watching him walk next summer...and hoping that playing under Nagelsmann convinces Werner that he would develop more from another year of his tutelage than he would from moving to a bigger club next summer. Not sure the latter is anything more than wishful thinking, but it's not a completely unimaginable scenario, given the growth other players have experienced under Nagelsmann.

That team would need to win a lot and I dunno if they truly have the class to beat out Bayern/BVB over a 34 game season or make a serious run in europe, given that they'll be in pot 4. But there is a timeline were Nagelsmann pulls it off...in large part by helping Timo find a new level...and Timo chooses not to exercise that clause when Bayern & co. come calling again because he wants Julian to help him find another new level to his game.

It’s amazing how hyped he was a couple years ago and how fast he’s fallen.

Developed physically at an early age but not being such a freak that he would maintain a significant physical advantage over most players as a senior teamer + poor instincts/creativity + good (especially for his age group) but not standout skill...tends to be an ominous combination

 

[Bon Esprit]

Dost is in Frankfurt for his medical today. Fee will be 8m kicker reports.

 

[maclean]

Seems to be a mix of 30M + 1 more season of Werner, being better than losing him now or watching him walk next summer...and hoping that playing under Nagelsmann convinces Werner that he would develop more from another year of his tutelage than he would from moving to a bigger club next summer. Not sure the latter is anything more than wishful thinking, but it's not a completely unimaginable scenario, given the growth other players have experienced under Nagelsmann.

That team would need to win a lot and I dunno if they truly have the class to beat out Bayern/BVB over a 34 game season or make a serious run in europe, given that they'll be in pot 4. But there is a timeline were Nagelsmann pulls it off...in large part by helping Timo find a new level...and Timo chooses not to exercise that clause when Bayern & co. come calling again because he wants Julian to help him find another new level to his game.



Developed physically at an early age but not being such a freak that he would maintain a significant physical advantage over most players as a senior teamer + poor instincts/creativity + good (especially for his age group) but not standout skill...tends to be an ominous combination

Hey, haven't seen you around in a while, congrats by the way on Union finally getting promoted!

 

[cgf]

Bild reporting that Werner's exit clause can rise to 60M next summer, depending on achievements, and drops annually. Making me buy the "convince him to stay for one more season" possibility just a little bit more...if Nagelsmann can work his magic & they have good fortune with health.

Hey, haven't seen you around in a while, congrats by the way on Union finally getting promoted!

Yeah, I was too grossed out by all of the Ozil garbage last summer to even want to talk football...but with my eiserne achieving the impossible, I guess I have no choice

 

[Pensionsraddare]

Better than Cesc?

No way in hell. Fabregas was a starter for one of the best teams in Europe at the same age. Not even sure if this guy actually is 16. Always tricky with african born players.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

No way in hell. Fabregas was a starter for one of the best teams in Europe at the same age. Not even sure if this guy actually is 16. Always tricky with african born players.

Cesc was 18 when he became a regular starter for Arsenal

 

[East Coast Bias]

No way in hell. Fabregas was a starter for one of the best teams in Europe at the same age. Not even sure if this guy actually is 16. Always tricky with african born players.

Fabergas absolutely did not start in his age 16 season. He didn't even receive a PL medal for the invincibles season b/c he never actually played a PL game.

He didn't start until 04-05 in the fall when injuries started piling up. When he was 17 and a half.

 

[Pensionsraddare]

Cesc was 18 when he became a regular starter for Arsenal

No it was the same year he turned 17. 33 league games that season for a way better team in a way tougher league. Camavinga turns 17 in november.

 

[Ajacied]

Yes. Camavinga reminds me of Seedorf. He is amazing at everything. He will become a dominant player and he will dominate for many years. His poise and awareness are out of this world. He is amazing in distributing passes but also he can dribbles with ease to open space and beat high pressure team. He is also very strong physicaly for a 16 years old. Any team that get him (whatever the price) will not regret it.

Seedorf was a freak of nature, don't forget that. Here's a picture from one of his first games (a month of 5/6 younger than Camavinga):



Anyway, will follow Camavinga more closely. Definitely seems interesting.

 

[hatterson]

No way in hell. Fabregas was a starter for one of the best teams in Europe at the same age. Not even sure if this guy actually is 16. Always tricky with african born players.

I can't tell if this is just a casually racist joke or just casual racism.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

I can't tell if this is just a casually racist joke or just casual racism.

I mean, both

 

[YNWA14]

I will say I know someone who is very high on Camavinga and has been since before this season. We spoke on him briefly and it looks like his interest in the player was very justified.

 

[Live in the Now]

I can't tell if this is just a casually racist joke or just casual racism.

Considering the source, casually a lot of things. Most of them dumb.

 

[hatterson]

I will say I know someone who is very high on Camavinga and has been since before this season. We spoke on him briefly and it looks like his interest in the player was very justified.

Any idea how Camavinga compares with Hannibal Majbri?

They would have been separated by a year (02 vs 03), but are really only 2 months apart in age and I know both are very highly touted.

 

[YNWA14]

Any idea how Camavinga compares with Hannibal Majbri?

They would have been separated by a year (02 vs 03), but are really only 2 months apart in age and I know both are very highly touted.

I can ask for you and let you know as I don't have a lot of personal knowledge of either.

 

[Cassano]

Any idea how Camavinga compares with Hannibal Majbri?

They would have been separated by a year (02 vs 03), but are really only 2 months apart in age and I know both are very highly touted.

IIRC Evilo said he's the best 2003 born player in the world.