Transfer: 2019 Summer Transfers News, Rumors, and Discussion; Part 8

[bleedblue1223]

Again - that was not your argument.

I replied specifically to you singling out Lampard.

Exactly. I'm not expecting Chelsea to finish top 4, and it's solely because of the transfer ban. The ban also affected who would take over for Sarri, and Lampard is probably one of the few managers available that Roman would've given a pass for whatever happens this year.

Lampard's influence has been enough to convince Hudson-Odoi to stay, so he's already a success in the long-term.

 

[phisherman]

Nothing much has changed since Luiz signed that new contract though.

Anyway. It doesn´t seem like anyone on here has any further information.

Luiz finding out the last day before the close of the window that Chelsea might not manage top 4 (or be competitive) seems a bit far fetched as an explanation for this transfer.

They didn't really specify Luiz's reason. Just that there have been disagreements this week and also his agent is connected to Arsenal's directors. I'm going to assume he wasn't guaranteed a starting spot. Which would indicate Lampard intends to have this season as a rebuild of sorts (playing the younger players) and hence top 4 shouldn't be an expectation.

 

[bleedblue1223]

If i am not misstaken, Luiz can play as a defensive midfelder, and he is better there than he is at cb.

Auba - Laca - Pepe
Ceballos - Luiz - Torreria
Bellerin - Rugani/Upamecano - Holding - Tierney
Leno

They should have play Saliba already, he is better than Holding.

He can technically play the position, but I wouldn't say he's better there. He played there in his previous stint at Chelsea because we didn't really have another option at the time. He's best in a back 3, and better in a back 4 than as CDM.

 

[phisherman]

Exactly. I'm not expecting Chelsea to finish top 4, and it's solely because of the transfer ban. The ban also affected who would take over for Sarri, and Lampard is probably one of the few managers available that Roman would've given a pass for whatever happens this year.

Lampard's influence has been enough to convince Hudson-Odoi to stay, so he's already a success in the long-term.

Wouldn't Hazard leaving have a bigger influence on Hudson-Odoi staying?

 

[bleedblue1223]

They didn't really specify Luiz's reason. Just that there have been disagreements this week and also his agent is connected to Arsenal's directors. I'm going to assume he wasn't guaranteed a starting spot. Which would indicate Lampard intends to have this season as a rebuild of sorts (playing the younger players) and hence top 4 shouldn't be an expectation.

All the Chelsea writers are saying that he wasn't going to have a consistent starting spot. We know Rudiger is the top CB, so either Zouma or Christensen were preferred or both.

 

[Havre]

They didn't really specify Luiz's reason. Just that there have been disagreements this week and also his agent is connected to Arsenal's directors. I'm going to assume he wasn't guaranteed a starting spot. Which would indicate Lampard intends to have this season as a rebuild of sorts (playing the younger players) and hence top 4 shouldn't be an expectation.

Yes. Sounds reasonable.

I still think it is odd, but apparently I am bit of an idiot for finding it odd

 

[bleedblue1223]

Wouldn't Hazard leaving have a bigger influence on Hudson-Odoi staying?

Nope, he still needed to be convinced that he was going to have a significant spot, and Lampard has really emphasized the youth so far. If Sarri or another manager played Willian, Pedro, and Pulisic a bunch, then Hudson-Odoi would be in Germany right now.

The youth at Chelsea have always been passed over, I think they all needed to see a manager they can trust and put faith in them.

 

[les Habs]

Poch would never manage Barca.

Pochettino: 'I would rather work on my farm in Argentina than manage Barcelona'

We don't need him to tell us that.

 

[bleedblue1223]

If you want a more defensively solid back 4, then it's not unreasonable to prefer Rudiger, Christensen, and Zouma.

 

[robertmac43]

8 million for Luiz, I actually love that value there

 

[bleedblue1223]

8 million for Luiz, I actually love that value there

Yeah, it's great for you guys.

 

[Havre]

Makes even less sense. Arsenal are clearly quite desperate. Credit to Arsenal for taking advantage of the situation though. For 8m I would have loved him at Spurs - even if he is not needed (hopefully).

 

[phisherman]

Who would have thought that Arsenal would bring in Pepe, Martinelli, Saliba, Ceballos, Luiz and Tierney when it was announced Arsenal only had 45 mil and one of the first names linked was Alexis Claude-Maurice?

Raul has done fantastic this window.

 

[Gecklund]

Who would have thought that Arsenal would bring in Pepe, Martinelli, Saliba, Ceballos, Luiz and Tierney when it was announced Arsenal only had 45 mil and one of the first names linked was Alexis Claude-Maurice?

Raul has done fantastic this window.

2 of those aren’t finished yet so I would wait and not get my hopes up yet.

 

[les Habs]

Ozil to DC United?

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Who would have thought that Arsenal would bring in Pepe, Martinelli, Saliba, Ceballos, Luiz and Tierney when it was announced Arsenal only had 45 mil and one of the first names linked was Alexis Claude-Maurice?

Raul has done fantastic this window.

Yes but they better finish top 4.

 

[phisherman]

2 of those aren’t finished yet so I would wait and not get my hopes up yet.

I will confidently say they're done.

Yes but they better finish top 4.

Definitely. If not Emery is gone.

 

[Live in the Now]

Sane is badly hurt and will be out until January. So, City are not getting money for him and as a result can’t replace him.

 

[Gecklund]

I will confidently say they're done.

Dybala and Bruno to United were done too.

 

[phisherman]

Dybala and Bruno to United were done too.

Well we will find out tomorrow won't we?

Personal terms were already agreed weeks back with Tierney. And I highly doubt there would be a turnaround for Luiz considering the attitude he put up just now.

 

[The Abusement Park]

 

[phisherman]

Hmm maybe I'll take back the Luiz signing. Arsenal trying to get him for 5 mil!

 

[Elliman]

You're right, it's entertainment. That's why everyone is laughing at such a stupid signing.

You’re easily amused!

Congratulations on a well deserved champions league win!! Let me know when you win a premiership title ;-)

Good luck in the new season.

Back on topic, Maguire will prove to be a great signing.

 

[robertmac43]

Mooy may be moving to Brighton

 

[ScottishCanuck]

Not happy with Tierney moving for 25 million, which in this day and age is nothing for a PL club.