2019 Spring Training discussion thread

AtlantaWhaler

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Dallas Kuechel is another example of the players getting screwed by the CBA. I bet more teams would try to sign him if some weren't subject to losing a first round pick (seriously this is stupid!!)
Losing the first rounder definitely doesn't help, but I think it's more that he's 31 and looking for a multiyear deal and is probably wanting frontline starter money. To be honest, while he's solid, he's averaged almost a 4 ERA over the last 3 seasons. I really don't think he's THAT great, and add that he's starting the back end of his career.
 

darko

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Dallas Kuechel is another example of the players getting screwed by the CBA. I bet more teams would try to sign him if some weren't subject to losing a first round pick (seriously this is stupid!!)

Teams that sign FA's don't lose draft picks any more.

Teams that lose a player get compensation in the form of a draft pick.
 

AdmiralsFan24

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Teams that sign FA's don't lose draft picks any more.

This is wrong.

Any team that signs a player who has rejected a qualifying offer is subject to the loss of one or more Draft picks. However, a team's highest first-round pick is exempt from forfeiture, which is a big change that went into effect with the new CBA. Three tiers of Draft-pick forfeiture -- based on the financial status of the signing team -- are in place to serve as a penalty for signing a player who rejected a qualifying offer:

• A team that exceeded the luxury tax in the preceding season will lose its second- and fifth-highest selections in the following year's Draft, as well as $1 million from its international bonus pool for the upcoming signing period. If such a team signs multiple qualifying-offer free agents, it will forfeit its third- and sixth-highest remaining picks as well.
Teams that are in this group this offseason: Nationals, Red Sox

• A team that receives revenue-sharing money will lose its third-highest selection in the following year's Draft. If it signs two such players, it will also forfeit its fourth-highest remaining pick.
Teams in this group: A's, Braves, Brewers, D-backs, Indians, Mariners, Marlins, Orioles, Padres, Pirates, Rays, Reds, Rockies, Royals, Tigers and Twins.

• A team that neither exceeded the luxury-tax threshold in the preceding season nor receives revenue sharing will lose its second-highest selection in the following year's Draft, as well as $500,000 from its international bonus pool for the upcoming signing period. If it signs two such players, it will also forfeit its third-highest remaining pick and an additional $500,000.

Teams in this group: Angels, Astros, Blue Jays, Cardinals, Cubs, Dodgers, Giants, Mets, Phillies, Rangers, White Sox and Yankees.


Draft picks for 2018-19 qualifying offers
 
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Quid Pro Clowe

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^ The system gives more benefits to teams that take money and don't work as hard, it appears.

Much like the system we live in...
 

rangerssharks414

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^ The system gives more benefits to teams that take money and don't work as hard, it appears.

Much like the system we live in...

Also, with the draft budget nowadays, the loss of a pick doesn't mean as much since teams can just take players that fall due to not having enough money in the budget.
 

Quid Pro Clowe

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Also, with the draft budget nowadays, the loss of a pick doesn't mean as much since teams can just take players that fall due to not having enough money in the budget.
Basically even more incentive to run your team on a shoe-string budget.

Mlbpa and the owners have some work to do.
 

tony d

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Kuechel still being out there surprises me. Guy is at worst a #2 starter. With both Harper and Machado signed now got to think Kuechel is signed soon.
 

Quid Pro Clowe

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Keuchel is a guy who has had 3-4 really good years, 2 bad years and meh year all mixed in. He wasn't a guy that even the Astros were that high on until he became really good. I can see why teams aren't exactly backing the truck up for him.
 

robert terwilliger

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they really should have given the al cy to whoever lost the nl cy that year. keuchel was good but price was really good too. and aside from that one season, keuchel's been a good pitcher who just turned 31 and thinks he's getting a truck backed up to his house.
 

Marc the Habs Fan

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The point is now Jays management has a perfect reason to keep him in the minors well into April. ''He needs to play games to get some reps'' and what not.
 

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