2019 Offseason

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Simmonds is going to get too much for too long. His best days are behind him.

 

[MMC]

Honestly, I’m not interested in free agency unless we can somehow get one of the following:

Karlsson
Skinner
Duchene
Panarin

Figure about backup and a depth dman on a one year deal and let’s just see how people bounce back.

I’d be more interested in the trade market.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Honestly, I’m not interested in free agency unless we can somehow get one of the following:

Karlsson
Skinner
Duchene
Panarin

Figure about backup and a depth dman on a one year deal and let’s just see how people bounce back.

I’d be more interested in the trade market.

Karlsson scares me he doesn’t look anywhere near healthy and what if he never does? Someone will pay him boku bucks and might not get what they hope for

 

[duckpuck]

If Kesler and Eaves retire I'd like Anaheim to sign Wayne Simmons as that is a definite buy low opportunity. Checks off all the boxes
PP specialist, adds veteran leadership, obvious toughness and could easily bounce back as he is not old and can still skate.
They definitely need to stop messing around and sign a tough dman and actually play him Ala Dotchin
Manson is getting worn down from having no help in that department
I can assume Steel and Jones are locks
Terry and Comtois are on the bubble

Simmonds is going to get too much for too long. His best days are behind him.

Signing Simmons would be awful. He's looking for term and the last thing the ducks need is another aging overpaid slow forward.

I think Stralman is a potential signing if he's willing to take a short term deal (no more than two years) at a reasonable cost. Not sure what the market will be for him, but he'd be a good veteran who seems primed for a bounce back type of year.

Unless there's a unique opportunity to acquire a true top line center or sniper, I think the ducks should wait another year and let the current aging core turnover to the younger players. I don't think the ducks have a true 1C in the pipeline - I think Steel and Lundestrom are 2c/3c type of players. That will be a priority once some of the current bad contracts (Perry) peel off and Getz continues to decline.

I was in favor of the ducks trading for Duchene 2 years ago, but I don't think he's a consistent 1C and, even if he is, he will be overpaid. No reason for the ducks to sign him or any of the other elite UFAs given the ducks window is 1-2 years away.

 

[KelVarnsen]

Dotchin and Schenn are scrubs? I can't recall a game thread where anyone complained about their game. As a #6 who would you suggest that is better? The likes of Megna, Welinski and Holzer is what this team went with that's true useless scrubs

Yes they are. Even your hero RC didn’t want to play them. But I agree the others are not any better. Hence me agreeing with you that I would like BM to acquire what you described in your earlier post.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Karlsson scares me he doesn’t look anywhere near healthy and what if he never does? Someone will pay him boku bucks and might not get what they hope for

Id take karlsson
Lindholm karlsson
Larson/guhle/mahura + Manson
^ remaining 2 + dotchin

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Id take karlsson
Lindholm karlsson
Larson/guhle/mahura + Manson
^ remaining 2 + dotchin

Karlsson is the type of dmen we need on our back end... ill take him or krug

 

[mightyquack]

The Karlsson talk is pointless, this team isn't going for Karlsson in a million years. It's debatable this team would go for Karlsson even in a contender window, but they sure as hell aren't going to make such a big splash after basically admitting they are retooling - they need to see what they have with the young players first before even considering such a move. Not to mention last thing Anaheim are going to do right now is give a massive deal to a player that will end in his mid to late 30's who's trending in the wrong direction when it comes to health the last couple of years after what's happened with Kesler.

 

[Masch78]

How good are the chances we're the team Oliwer Kaski signed for? He would fill a huge need and he would fit the things BM wants. Hard shot, RHD and PP guy.

 

[Paul4587]

Karlsson if healthy and not super expensive is exactly what we need. The Issue is that while he could recover from his latest injury and put up another 5 or 6 years of great play or he could be hampered by injuries and become another Kesler situation.

That said if you can move Fowler and get Kesler on LTIR I may be willing to take that risk. But yeah not going to happen.

 

[Masch78]

Karlsson if healthy and not super expensive is exactly what we need.

Will he sign for less than 70 mil? I fully expect him to sign to a deal that has a similar structure like the one of Tavares. Getting 35-40 as signing bonuses in the first 3 years.

 

[dracom]

Id take karlsson
Lindholm karlsson
Larson/guhle/mahura + Manson
^ remaining 2 + dotchin

I’m sorry but that D core looks horrible outside the top pairing. And we wouldn’t even being getting Karlsson at his best, we’ll be getting a declining Karlsson for way too much money and for way too long.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I’m sorry but that D core looks horrible outside the top pairing. And we wouldn’t even being getting Karlsson at his best, we’ll be getting a declining Karlsson for way too much money and for way too long.

Declining ek65 had 2x as many points as fowler while being better defensively.

You can do
Lindholm manson
Larsson karlsson
Guhle dotchin

I dont get the karlsson is declining myth

 

[dracom]

Declining ek65 had 2x as many points as fowler while being better defensively.

You can do
Lindholm manson
Larsson karlsson
Guhle dotchin

I dont get the karlsson is declining myth

Fowler had more goals than Karlsson on a much worse team and one with dreadful offensive production overall. Now Karlsson did have 22 more points, but again Karlsson had a much better team to play with than Fowler; his offensive production this season just isn't worth what he'll get on his next contract. I take Fowler over Karlsson defensively easily. Karlsson declining is not a myth, it's just reality for a guy in his late 20's who keeps getting injured.

Karlsson is going to get at least a 70 million dollar contract, I do not want the Ducks to be anywhere near that contract. Let's stop overpaying players who keep getting injured and are past their primes.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Fowler had more goals than Karlsson on a much worse team and one with dreadful offensive production overall. Now Karlsson did have 22 more points, but again Karlsson had a much better team to play with than Fowler; his offensive production this season just isn't worth what he'll get on his next contract. I take Fowler over Karlsson defensively easily. Karlsson declining is not a myth, it's just reality for a guy in his late 20's who keeps getting injured.

Karlsson is going to get at least a 70 million dollar contract, I do not want the Ducks to be anywhere near that contract. Let's stop overpaying players who keep getting injured and are past their primes.

So then you are for trading fowler? Cause fowler has played less games than ek over last 4 years.. late 20s and on his decline.

Karlsson is better than fowler defensively...and brings way more offense. Its not realistic but id take Ek pretty easily

 

[dracom]

So then you are for trading fowler? Cause fowler has played less games than ek over last 4 years.. late 20s and on his decline.

Karlsson is better than fowler defensively...and brings way more offense. Its not realistic but id take Ek pretty easily

I'd keep Fowler because his contract is better and allows us more cap flexibility in the future. Also his injuries are nearly as bad as Karlsson's achilles heel injury. Karlsson's injuries are nagging ones that keep coming back. Fowler's are due to dirty hits or random chance; his injury history is less scary than Karlsson's.

Again, I disagree on Karlsson being better defensively, Karlsson is like Burns in the defensive category; just not that good but the offense makes up for it. Except that Karlsson's offensive production isn't "greatest offensive D in the game" level anymore. Whoever signs him to that contract will regret in a few years, I don't want us with another Kesler contract in a few years.

 

[Opak]

How good are the chances we're the team Oliwer Kaski signed for? He would fill a huge need and he would fit the things BM wants. Hard shot, RHD and PP guy.

About 1 in 31.

In all seriousness, I don't see the Kaski mystery getting solved anytime soon, as usually teams avoid making unnecessary announcements during playoff time. Kaski's contract would have to kick in next season, so there's plenty of quiet summer days ahead to let the news of that signing go public.

Kaski is undrafted and has no known NHL "ties" or "connections". A betting man would look at the teams that heavily scout and/or have prospects in Finland, but it really could be any team.

 

[AngelDuck]

Fowler making less than Karlsson doesn’t make his contract “better”

Lol

He’s half the player...and that’s being generous to Cam

 

[Sojourn]

I'd keep Fowler because his contract is better and allows us more cap flexibility in the future. Also his injuries are nearly as bad as Karlsson's achilles heel injury. Karlsson's injuries are nagging ones that keep coming back. Fowler's are due to dirty hits or random chance; his injury history is less scary than Karlsson's.

Again, I disagree on Karlsson being better defensively, Karlsson is like Burns in the defensive category; just not that good but the offense makes up for it. Except that Karlsson's offensive production isn't "greatest offensive D in the game" level anymore. Whoever signs him to that contract will regret in a few years, I don't want us with another Kesler contract in a few years.

I’ve always felt Karlsson’s “defense” was simply creating more offense and needing to play less defense. Which is a solid strategy until you need to play defense, which has exposed him a lot over the years. For the most part it hasn’t been too much of an issue, except when he isn’t having a great game offensively. And then things get ugly when he isn’t putting up crazy offensive numbers as a defenseman. He’s really not very good defensively, and that’s being generous. More accurately, he can be a complete liability, and he’s a complete liability defensively playing 25+ minutes a night. Without his offense, he bleeds goals against. With his offense, he is a wound that occasionally opens up, but you don’t care because he’s an offensive force.

I’d love Karlsson if he were healthy. He’s so good when he’s at the top of his game. It just looks like injury issues are dragging him down, and I don’t think you can count on him for a long-term contract. In theory, he’d be terrific, but in actual practice whoever signs him is gambling bigtime, and I don’t like the odds.

 

[Sojourn]

Fowler making less than Karlsson doesn’t make his contract “better”

Lol

He’s half the player...and that’s being generous to Cam

When Karlsson is healthy and playing his game, you’re absolutely right.

But are you sure that’s the Karlsson you get? It isn’t the one San Jose has.

 

[AngelDuck]

When Karlsson is healthy and playing his game, you’re absolutely right.

But are you sure that’s the Karlsson you get? It isn’t the one San Jose has.

He was fine all year and has struggled returning from the recent injury. I’m pretty positive he’ll be a lot better than Cam Fowler next season.

But I don’t think we should sign him, I agree on that

 

[Sojourn]

He was fine all year and has struggled returning from the recent injury. I’m pretty positive he’ll be a lot better than Cam Fowler next season.

But I don’t think we should sign him, I agree on that

Well, that’s not completely true. He started the season pretty poorly too. Which kind of goes to show how good Karlsson can be when he is playing well.

And injurie issues are the point. They are happening too much, and lately it seems like every time he returns, struggles for a while, and then starts playing like Karlsson. At which point he seems to get injured again, rinse and repeat.

 

[Masch78]

I’m pretty positive he’ll be a lot better than Cam Fowler next season.

And he will likely get twice the money Cam get.

 

[Hey234]

As a few others have mentioned, a healthy - in his prime - Karlsson is a much better player than Fowler. But the chances of seeing that verson of Karlsson anymore is so slim. And that is not even considering if he would want to play here at all.

As a rule, the Ducks need to avoid signing players with:

1) Major history with injuries that have a real chance of repeating said injury.
2) Players declining in their overall play
3) Players who command a huge contract for historical player skill over current player skill

 

[Ducks DVM]

Declining ek65 had 2x as many points as fowler while being better defensively.

You can do
Lindholm manson
Larsson karlsson
Guhle dotchin

I dont get the karlsson is declining myth

I’ll take Fowler at 6.5 over Karlsson at 10-12 pretty easily.