The Athletic - Boston 2019 NHL farm system rankings: No. 29 Boston Bruins

Discussion in 'Boston Bruins' started by Fenway, Aug 13, 2019.

  1. Fenway

    Fenway Administrator Sponsor

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2007
    Messages:
    41,610
    Likes Received:
    28,737
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Boston-Cambridge MA


    2019 NHL farm system rankings: No. 29 Boston Bruins

    Prospect Ranking


    1. Jack Studnicka, C, Niagara-OHL
    2. Urho Vaakanainen, D, Providence-AHL
    3. John Beecher, C, USNTDP-USHL
    4. Kyle Keyser, G, Oshawa-OHL
    5. Trent Frederic, C, Providence-AHL
    6. Karson Kuhlman, RW, Boston-NHL
    7. Jakub Lauko, LW, Rouyn-Noranda-QMJHL
    8. Jakub Zboril, D, Providence-AHL
    9. Pavel Shen, C, Ufa-KHL
    10. Oskar Steen, C, Farjestad-SHL
    11. Jeremy Swayman, G, Maine-Hockey East
    12. Zach Senyshyn, RW, Providence-AHL
    13. Cameron Hughes, C, Providence-AHL
    14. Peter Cehlarik, LW, Providence-AHL
    15. Curtis Hall, C, Yale-ECAC
    16. Axel Andersson, D, Sodertalje-Allsvenskan
    17. Matias Mantykivi, C, Saipa-Finland Jr
     
  2. CDJ

    CDJ Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2006
    Messages:
    20,985
    Likes Received:
    2,948
    Trophy Points:
    186
    Location:
    Cape Cod
    I mean, they kinda lose a lot of credibility when they have Mantykivi over Lauzon (or really half the list for that matter)
     
    bbfan419 likes this.
  3. JRull86

    JRull86 One Greasy DeBrusk

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2009
    Messages:
    22,229
    Likes Received:
    6,854
    Trophy Points:
    202
    Location:
    Abington
    #29? I dunno about that.

    Is it top tier? Hell no. But bottom 3? No freaking way.

    Also, how is Lauzon not on this list? Laughable.
     
    Alicat, sarge88 and bbfan419 like this.
  4. Jim

    Jim Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2002
    Messages:
    852
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Rochester NY
    It’s a funny thing, looking your future in the face, knowing that it has suffered at the expense of you recent success. Nobody can stay on top forever.

    There will be some lean years coming. We need the type of players that only a few horrible seasons will yield come draft day.
     
    Lo97 likes this.
  5. LouJersey

    LouJersey Al<3xxx

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2002
    Messages:
    55,580
    Likes Received:
    12,402
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Occupation:
    Mr. Lindsey Pelas
    Location:
    Pit of Misery
    Every where you look the Bruins are 26th or worse. It just is what it is.

    They have graduated quite a few, plus they are always good so they draft late / trade picks for rentals....

    The 2015 draft is the issue. To only have 2 contributors out of 8 of the top 104 picks at this point four years later is really just a terrible job no matter how you want to slice it. I do still have faith in Senny and Lauzon so we will see if they can be contributors going forward.
     
    Lo97 and Estlin like this.
  6. UncleRico

    UncleRico Registered User

    Joined:
    May 8, 2017
    Messages:
    1,630
    Likes Received:
    1,023
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Lauzon not even listed? Oskar Steen 10th? I don’t know who compiled this list but they don’t have a very good grasp of the system.
     
  7. PB37

    PB37 Mr Selke

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2002
    Messages:
    19,177
    Likes Received:
    4,807
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Maine
    2015 isn't the issue with the low ranking. The prospects that were passed up have all graduated on their teams and have nothing to do with prospect rankings since they're no longer prospects.
     
  8. Johnnyduke

    Johnnyduke Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2007
    Messages:
    13,764
    Likes Received:
    954
    Trophy Points:
    169
    That Stanley Cup loss feels even worse now...
     
  9. LouJersey

    LouJersey Al<3xxx

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2002
    Messages:
    55,580
    Likes Received:
    12,402
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Occupation:
    Mr. Lindsey Pelas
    Location:
    Pit of Misery
    There are still prospects from that draft though. It's not even just round one. Three picks round 2, homerun, bust, and hopefully a 3rd pair guy...round 3 terrible...round 4 terrible....all within top 104..and not even ranked (although Lauzon should be IMO)
     
    Fenian24 and Estlin like this.
  10. Jean_Jacket41

    Jean_Jacket41 Neely = HOF

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2003
    Messages:
    20,974
    Likes Received:
    5,249
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Location:
    With the smurfs
    They would have more prospect contributing if they were a terrible team.

    Very few spot open for ELC on a Cup contending team instead of a forever DNQ like the Oilers or the Habs.

    Meanwhile, Bruins still had plenty of great ELC playing in key roles the last few years with McAvoy, Carlo, DeBrusk and Heinen and Pasta before that.

    They were key part and big reason the Bruins reached a 3rd SCF in 9 years.

    These prospects lists is fun for the bad teams in hope of better days. They can dream of being relevant again and make the playoffs for once or for the bigger dreamer, being a Cup contender again.

    Bruins are already a Cup contender and with the under 25y already on the roster, the grizzled battle tested veteran core, one of the best G in the league, the best 1-12D depth in the league and with a plethora of ELC ready to show they can be the next wave of surrounding cast, they may remain one for many years.

    It’s a very good time to be a Bruins fan.
     
  11. LouJersey

    LouJersey Al<3xxx

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2002
    Messages:
    55,580
    Likes Received:
    12,402
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Occupation:
    Mr. Lindsey Pelas
    Location:
    Pit of Misery
    I agree with this 100%.
     
  12. BigGoalBrad

    BigGoalBrad Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2012
    Messages:
    7,384
    Likes Received:
    1,003
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Carlo > McAvoy in consecutive years can't really be beat and Pasternak>JDB is pretty good as well in consecutive drafts. Not as high on those 2 you mention but the book isnt closed. The 2 bunk 1st rounders were pretty late just stings b/c that specific draft was so deep but whiffing at 15 and 16 the year before or after would have been fine.

    Donato returned a pretty good player that fueled a Cup run.

    Nice we got a legit player in Clifton out of the non existant system and our #12 prospect according to our fans on here scored a huge goal in G6 playing on the second line on the road in a SCF elimination game.

    Just like it took 3 picks in the first round in 2015 to get a decent player I think one of the 3 center prospects turns into a DK replacement. Urho is a good prospect and some blue line options behind him. Some interesting young Euros. Nothing in net but I'd rather be scouting outside the NHL for older guys like the backup in Providence last year than wait for a 18 year old to develop. If we work hard enough we can likely find a GOOD Halak replacement on a cheap deal and free up some cap room.
     
    LouJersey likes this.
  13. BruinsBtn

    BruinsBtn Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2006
    Messages:
    16,652
    Likes Received:
    5,282
    Trophy Points:
    186
    Pronman is a huge Leafs fan FWIW. He's probably still sulking about the playoffs. I mean, he had no clue on Clifton, Carlo (who he still thinks is a limited player), Gryz and pretty much every other guy the Bruins have drafted -- including McAvoy, who he had at #26 and said "it's possible he could skate top-4 minutes at his peak".
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2019
  14. BigGoalBrad

    BigGoalBrad Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2012
    Messages:
    7,384
    Likes Received:
    1,003
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Nice to see Kulhman get some respect on that list after how badly our fans trashed him in the the poll on here. Sucking in the AHL and not even being a relaible 3rd liner down there impresses people more than an even strength goal (rare as a dodo bird) in the SCFs. Embarrassing Senyshyn was voted ahead of him.
     
    Jim likes this.
  15. Therick67

    Therick67 Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2009
    Messages:
    7,980
    Likes Received:
    929
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Location:
    South of Boston
    I was under the impression this farm system was something Sweeney was building up and we were going to see lots of great young players who were going to be
    under team control for a while.....
     
    Lo97 likes this.
  16. Fenian24

    Fenian24 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2010
    Messages:
    6,134
    Likes Received:
    2,291
    Trophy Points:
    127
    I have been told on this very board that there is a number two RW just waiting for a chance and Sweeney doesn't need to panic and do something like add one, that there is no need to sign veterans because the pipeline is "so deep and just needs a chance" and "we can't block the kids".That Urho Vaakanainen is going to be a top pair defenseman and should be untradeable. Couldn't be that some have horribly overrated the prospects and that even Sweeney recognizes this and that is the reason he signed Gaunce and Ritchie? That even he doesn't have faith in his beloved prospects pool?

    I only put so much faith in the athletic and I think the Bruins have some good depth prospects and fully expect Beecher, Frederic, Studnicka and Vaakanninen to have decent to good NHL careers but I have yet to see the Bruins ranked above 25 in the few pools I have seen so maybe it's time for a does of reality to set in on some of the folks who think they can't move prospects because they have such a great pool and Cehlarik is just a "fair" chance away from being a top 6 forward and Senyshyn is just learning to play defense in Providence. Every one of these prospects, including Frederic and Beecher who I like a lot, should be available for an immediate upgrade.
     
    Lo97 and DoubleAAAA like this.
  17. crimsonace

    crimsonace Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2010
    Messages:
    1,775
    Likes Received:
    868
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Teacher
    Location:
    Indianapolis, IN
    When you draft as deep as the B’s have for the last decade, you’ll have fewer of those high-ceiling prospects. The prospect pool is solid given where they have drafted. Part of it, too, is Carlo, McAvoy, DeBrusk, Pasta, Heinen (all double-digit or later picks) have “graduated” from prospect status. Kuraly, who was acquired via trade, too.
     
  18. Saxon Eric

    Saxon Eric Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2005
    Messages:
    8,443
    Likes Received:
    3,346
    Trophy Points:
    156
    His C- grade of the 2019 draft is laughable but his player evaluations were pretty good
    I actually enjoyed reading the article
     
  19. LouJersey

    LouJersey Al<3xxx

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2002
    Messages:
    55,580
    Likes Received:
    12,402
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Occupation:
    Mr. Lindsey Pelas
    Location:
    Pit of Misery
    For better or worse the Bruins have seemed to have moved away from the one dimensional smaller top 6 only type player in the drafts and are going for 200 foot high floor type guys that can play up and down the lineup. They seem to shy away from Spooners, Koko's and JFK's now, and I have to say I don't have that huge of a problem with it as long as they either develop some goal scorers or got outside the organization to get them.
     
    Bergyesque and Saxon Eric like this.
  20. Fenian24

    Fenian24 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2010
    Messages:
    6,134
    Likes Received:
    2,291
    Trophy Points:
    127
    If you can keep your bottom 6, third pair filled with effective, low cost players, hopefully like Beecher, Frederic, Kuhlman, Clifton, Gryz and tailor your drafting style to fill those spots you can use your cap space and other prospects to acquire a Hall as a free agent or Horton via trade. You can't make mistakes using this as a template but it can work and keep you competitive and ideally a cup champion more than once every 47 years.
     
  21. BlackFrancis

    BlackFrancis Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2013
    Messages:
    595
    Likes Received:
    512
    Trophy Points:
    89
    I enjoy reading his articles as well, but not without a tumbler full of salt handy.
     
  22. DKH

    DKH Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    53,883
    Likes Received:
    12,678
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Why ?

    Because some person said the Bruins are 29

    Last year Buffalo was 1 and Nylander was top 3 prospect- he was as high as 8 overall
    In the league when I picked him as my Griffin Reinhart bust

    I watched him twice live in Providence and went on HF and skewered him and was told to stop trolling

    Looks like I wasn’t trolling

    Bust

    HF had a thread 2-3 years ago the Bruins tun is over after they started 0-2-1

    In the end many of the Beecher Lauko Lauzon Studnicka Frederic Andersson Zboril Steen Keysor Vaakanainen Swayman Olson group
    Will have made it

    Olson & Lauzon not on ?

    Lauzon & Quinn Olson will have better careers than Griffin Reinhart & Alex Nylander

    You know in prior columns was gushing over those two ?

    Pronman
     
  23. DKH

    DKH Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    53,883
    Likes Received:
    12,678
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Odds of a second round pick playing 246 games is 22%

    Not sure if Carlo there yet but they already had a successful second round going by history

    We will know more on Zboril & Senyshyn this season
     
    Glove Malfunction likes this.
  24. Jim

    Jim Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2002
    Messages:
    852
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Rochester NY
    Given our success, we haven’t had a REALLY exciting draft pick since Seguin, and before that, Thornton. Lucky us, we found a few later round gems.

    It will be weird to transition (2- 4 years) back into potentially having a lottery pick.
     
  25. BruinsFanSince94

    BruinsFanSince94 ExpertSince94

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2017
    Messages:
    14,324
    Likes Received:
    14,063
    Trophy Points:
    131
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Firefighter
    Location:
    New England
    No one thinks half the garbage you say in this post.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice
monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"