Prospect Info: 2019 NHL Entry Draft Part I

[tmg]

We've got what it takes to finish #31

...and even if we do that's still only around a 20% chance at the Hughes pick and another 15% at the Kakko. Not nearly probable enough to start bandying those names around as a likely proposition.

 

[Spoiled Bratt]

There's no franchise changing player in this years draft, so if we were to pick in the top #5, we would still be getting an awesome prospect.

I'd take Hugues, Kakko, Dach, Cozens or Broberg and even Podkolzin.

I know some wouldn't be too thrilled to take a Russian with a top #5 pick but this kid is the real deal. He has a non stop motor, plays the game the right way, isn't scared to go in corners and fight for loose pucks and his offensive instincts are among the best in this draft class.

 

[Nocashstyle]

There's no franchise changing player in this years draft, so if we were to pick in the top #5, we would still be getting an awesome prospect.

I'd take Hugues, Kakko, Dach, Cozens or Broberg and even Podkolzin.

I know some wouldn't be too thrilled to take a Russian with a top #5 pick but this kid is the real deal. He has a non stop motor, plays the game the right way, isn't scared to go in corners and fight for loose pucks and his offensive instincts are among the best in this draft class.

I don’t know about that. Hughes has had the hype and his numbers with the NTDP are pretty up there/better than some elite company.

 

[zharkenby]

We've got what it takes to finish #31

Hynes gives us the best chance to win (a higher pick)

Agreed

 

[mtnet]

...and even if we do that's still only around a 20% chance at the Hughes pick and another 15% at the Kakko. Not nearly probable enough to start bandying those names around as a likely proposition.

That was more so a tongue-in-cheek crack on the team and coach than a serious proclamation

Basically saying the only thing the team is potentially the best at this year, is being the worst...

Hopefully Hall can bring us more lottery luck though ala Edmonton

 

[Spoiled Bratt]

I don’t know about that. Hughes has had the hype and his numbers with the NTDP are pretty up there/better than some elite company.

Hype is great and all but several players were hyped in the past and never really lived up to it. He is playing well but the word on the street is that he's not improving all that much and that's the reason his stock isn't "rising" thus far. Granted, you can't go any higher up when you've been tagged as the 1st overall pick for the past several months but what I'm trying to say is that others (Kakko, Dach and Cozens) have slowly catched up to Hughes when everyone thought he'd be the clear favorite.

 

[Call Me Al]

Nolan Patrick also had hype for years and he's not really doing much of anything right now. sometimes it's hard to predict even for these guys that are followed for years

 

[Nocashstyle]

Hype is great and all but several players were hyped in the past and never really lived up to it. He is playing well but the word on the street is that he's not improving all that much and that's the reason his stock isn't "rising" thus far. Granted, you can't go any higher up when you've been tagged as the 1st overall pick for the past several months but what I'm trying to say is that others (Kakko, Dach and Cozens) have slowly catched up to Hughes when everyone thought he'd be the clear favorite.

I mean, 63 points in 35 games is pretty damn good.

The “not improving” narrative almost always applies to players under the microscope for an extended period of time.

It’s easier to favor risers when they are taking obvious steps forwards, but like you said, it’s pretty difficult to top yourself if you are already tagged as #1 due to an insane season the year before.

 

[Nocashstyle]

Nolan Patrick also had hype for years and he's not really doing much of anything right now. sometimes it's hard to predict even for these guys that are followed for years

Yeah I was actually going to add that to my most recent post.

You had someone like Tavares being under the microscope for years and people started questioning if he peaked. Obviously seems silly now.

At the same time, Nolan Patrick was in the same boat but seeming to go the other way.

 

[Scooooooooooooot]

Yeah I was actually going to add that to my most recent post.

You had someone like Tavares being under the microscope for years and people started questioning if he peaked. Obviously seems silly now.

At the same time, Nolan Patrick was in the same boat but seeming to go the other way.

Nolan Patrick was a product of the Canadian hype machine. He developed early, but doesnt have the skating of top players so its not surprising hes not a legit star prospect. Jack Hughes has elite skill sets in terms of skating and playmaking so its different. Kakko has closed the gap, i dont think the other have a legit chance to go over hughes.

 

[Spoiled Bratt]

I mean, 63 points in 35 games is pretty damn good.

The “not improving” narrative almost always applies to players under the microscope for an extended period of time.

It’s easier to favor risers when they are taking obvious steps forwards, but like you said, it’s pretty difficult to top yourself if you are already tagged as #1 due to an insane season the year before.

I'm not saying that Hugues will bust... just that his game hasn't improved according to several pro scouts. Yes, he's raking up pts like it's nobody's business but that's not what they're referring to. There's plenty of time left before the draft but I just don't think that it's a lock he'll go #1 or #2.

 

[Scooooooooooooot]

I'm not saying that Hugues will bust... just that his game hasn't improved according to several pro scouts. Yes, he's raking up pts like it's nobody's business but that's not what they're referring to. There's plenty of time left before the draft but I just don't think that it's a lock he'll go #1 or #2.

Outside of a poor World Juniors, there is no way he doesn't go 1 or 2. Also what scouts have said that?

 

[devilsfan35]

The world juniors is usually where scouts have a better understanding of who should go number 1. Hischier dominated the wjc and I think that put him as the consensus #1. Hughes will be surrounded by good players and it’s his spot to lose if Kakko out performs him

 

[NJDevs26]

...and even if we do that's still only around a 20% chance at the Hughes pick and another 15% at the Kakko. Not nearly probable enough to start bandying those names around as a likely proposition.

Seriously....people act like this is the NFL where all you need to do is tank to ensure the #1 pick. Ask the Avs how that worked out a couple years ago. Worry about the lottery in late April, that's it. Us of all fanbases should know better after getting Nico out of the 5 hole.

 

[glenwo2]

Nolan Patrick also had hype for years and he's not really doing much of anything right now. sometimes it's hard to predict even for these guys that are followed for years

Thank god for Nico and for Shero making the CORRECT choice.

 

[MadDevil]

Thank god for Nico and for Shero making the CORRECT choice.

I was one of those leaning towards Patrick at the draft. I'm so glad to be wrong on that one.

 

[ScottyK]

I was one of those leaning towards Patrick at the draft. I'm so glad to be wrong on that one.

Saaaaaaame

 

[glenwo2]

I was one of those leaning towards Patrick at the draft. I'm so glad to be wrong on that one.

If you recall, I was one of the more vocal supporters of getting NP over Nico but that was due to my ignorance of not knowing all that much about Nico while knowing more about Patrick and swallowing the Kool-aid on him.

Thank god I wasn't the GM or I would've set the franchise back considerably by picking NP.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Seriously....people act like this is the NFL where all you need to do is tank to ensure the #1 pick. Ask the Avs how that worked out a couple years ago. Worry about the lottery in late April, that's it. Us of all fanbases should know better after getting Nico out of the 5 hole.

People are setting themselves up for disappointment if they think it is likely we draft #1 or #2.

Better to get familiar with prospects ranked #5-#15 as that will more likely be our range.

 

[Devils Dominion]

If you recall, I was one of the more vocal supporters of getting NP over Nico but that was due to my ignorance of not knowing all that much about Nico while knowing more about Patrick and swallowing the Kool-aid on him.

Thank god I wasn't the GM or I would've set the franchise back considerably by picking NP.

Not me, but a few were saying EP, which in hindsight should have gone 1st

 

[Call Me Al]

i know that’s trolling and i like nico but damn i would love to have petterson on this team

 

[Call Me Al]

though there was almost no talk of him going first at the time - nico was the right pick with all of the information at the draft.

 

[zharkenby]

It’s gonna be tough to beat out Chicago for 31st... but I have a good feeling we’ll be in the race for Hughes

 

[Nubmer6]

though there was almost no talk of him going first at the time - nico was the right pick with all of the information at the draft.

What's interesting is if he would have been there if we had not won the lottery. If there was no lottery, Vancouver would have picked 2nd picked Nico or Nolan. It's interesting to wonder if we would/could have ended up with Pettersson.

 

[Nubmer6]

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