HF Habs: 2019 Montreal Canadiens Training Camp Part 3: The Final Countdown

[BLONG7]

Imagine coming off a season where you put up 34pts in 79 games, averaging close to 14 mins per game as the youngest player in the NHL.

And without even playing a single second of your sophomore campaign..

Being told you don't belong with the team yet.

This is why we can't have nice things lol

If they ever give KK some wingers, instead of the leftovers, he would show them!!

I expect this kid to get 50 pts this year. We can only hope RDS doesn't lose their minds if he gets some PP time.

 

[417]

Pretty amazing last 12 months for Cale Fleury...

At this point last year, he wasn't even signed to his ELC...he didn't sign it until October 4, 2018.

There was even some concern on whether or not he'd head back to the WHL as an overager.

 

[417]

If they ever give KK some wingers, instead of the leftovers, he would show them!!

Doesn't look like CJ's got the stomach for this right now.

I expect this kid to get 50 pts this year. We can only hope RDS doesn't lose their minds if he gets some PP time.

I'm not expecting a drastic point increase because it doesn't appear that his role has changed or will be changing any time soon.

 

[Redux91]

Pretty amazing last 12 months for Cale Fleury...

At this point last year, he wasn't even signed to his ELC...he didn't sign it until October 4, 2018.

There was even some concern on whether or not he'd head back to the WHL as an overager.

After Hyping this kid for the last 2 years, and deep down thinking "why am i even getting excited for this guy, they will never "see" that hes good, bergy doesnt have the "eye", they probably love brook way more blah blah"

I gotta say its pretty awesome this coaching staff was able to determine that the kid is in fact, a really good player as well, and brook will get his time eventually

 

[Runner77]

Is this for real? Fleury had to trade in his jersey number for a lower one cause Bergevin doesn't like his players to wear high numbers?



Of all the stupidities.

 

[Milhouse40]

If they ever give KK some wingers, instead of the leftovers, he would show them!!

I expect this kid to get 50 pts this year. We can only hope RDS doesn't lose their minds if he gets some PP time.

RDS will protect Drouin for almost 2 years though...
They will pump the tires of Hudon for months….
And they are now on getting Danault some PP minutes cause he's god apparently...

But when it comes to a 19 years old, top prospect….can't have a bad couple of games.
Can't have better winger, can't get a bigger role, can't get PP time, can't use the Team's bathroom either.

 

[Milhouse40]

Is this for real? Fleury had to trade in his jersey number for a lower one cause Bergevin doesn't like his players to wear high numbers?



Of all the stupidities.

The guy can't count that high….

 

[ECWHSWI]

Not at all. Strong and fairly consistent 5 on 5 play is exactly what you want from your 2C and ideally your 3C.

If his results are better than what some teams get from their 1C, that is THEIR problem, and a bonus for us.

we're not talking strong here, but among the best... no ?

 

[ECWHSWI]

Danault is great too ; one of the best 5/5 centres of the NHL

exactly, he's elite.

 

[Habaneros]

Is this for real? Fleury had to trade in his jersey number for a lower one cause Bergevin doesn't like his players to wear high numbers?



Of all the stupidities.

lol....76 was traded...hmmm



JD wears 92 ...Lek is 62 Mete with 53 Tatarrrrrrrrrrrrrrr wears 90...Weal wears 43...Nate T 44...Armia 40


I think that shows he isn't against high numbers??? unless this policy just stated??lol
Maybe he will trade away all the high numbers guys????????/lol

 

[BaseballCoach]

we're not talking strong here, but among the best... no ?

What is your point? I truly don't understand what you are trying to say. I'M under the impression that we both agree that Danault is not a true 1C, and that he is producing like a 2C and would ideally be a 3C on a very good team.

Do you actually disagree?

 

[Runner77]

lol....76 was traded...hmmm



JD wears 92 ...Lek is 62 Mete with 53 Tatarrrrrrrrrrrrrrr wears 90...Weal wears 43...Nate T 44...Armia 40


I think that shows he isn't against high numbers??? unless this policy just stated??lol

Must be a new policy. Suzuki was wearing 88 before.

 

[Habaneros]

Must be a new policy. Suzuki was wearing 88 before.

Gretzky99 Lemieux66 and Lindros 88 , Jagr 68 ..Crosby 87....the kids are right to go high..best players in recent times wore high#..lol....I guess they'd all be banned from playin in Montreal now in 2019-20???lol

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

We gonna have to be patient here. IF KK is still struggling after 20-25 games, they gonna make that decision. Not before.

Each pt is important at the end. I'm sure KK would find his speed of the game after 4 games in Laval. Not many more. If KK starts here not in shape, Habs will miss the PO again by little. We have one line that is ready (Danault-Tatar-Gally), another one not quite ready (Domi-Suzuki and the other one),
another one that is searching for his hockey stick (KK-Drouin-Weal)
and a 4th line that will never score a single goal.
We have to transform a messy line by a credible nhl one.

 

[ECWHSWI]

What is your point? I truly don't understand what you are trying to say. I'M under the impression that we both agree that Danault is not a true 1C, and that he is producing like a 2C and would ideally be a 3C on a very good team.

Do you actually disagree?

he's producing like a 2nd line C but he's among the best 5on5... so, the ONLY reason he isnt producing like a #1C is him not having PP time I guess ???

now before replying, if you ever feel like it, take a few seconds to think about it...

 

[The Real Timo]

lol....76 was traded...hmmm



JD wears 92 ...Lek is 62 Mete with 53 Tatarrrrrrrrrrrrrrr wears 90...Weal wears 43...Nate T 44...Armia 40


I think that shows he isn't against high numbers??? unless this policy just stated??lol
Maybe he will trade away all the high numbers guys????????/lol

Guys... all Marc Bergevin is trying to do is make Fleury a better person. It is important.

 

[Habaneros]

So Fleury wears #20 for Habs ...history says his career with Habs will be short..

Players who wore #20 for Habs Montreal Canadiens Sweater Numbers | Hockey-Reference.com

Tom Manastersky 1951

Frank King 1951

Gerard Desaulniers 1951

Jean Beliveau 1951

Paul Meger 1951-1955

Jim Bartlett 1955

Ralph Backstrom 1957

Bronco Horvath 1957

Phil Goyette 1957-1963

Jerry Wilson 1957

Glen Cressman 1957

Guy Rousseau 1957

Murray Balfour 1957

Allan Johnson 1957

Dave Balon 1964-1967

Garry Monahan 1968

Lucien Grenier 1969

Bob Berry 1969

Pete Mahovlich 1970-1978

Cam Connor 1979

Danny Geoffrion 1980

Yvan Joly 1981

Guy Carbonneau 1981

Mark Hunter 1982-1985

Kjell Dahlin 1986-1988

Jyrki Lumme 1989-1990

Sylvain Turgeon 1991-1992

Patrik Carnback 1993

Pierre Sevigny 1994-1995

Craig Conroy 1996

Eric Houde 1997

Valeri Bure 1998

Scott Lachance 1999-2000

Richard Zednik 2001-2006

P.J. Stock 2001

Mike Johnson 2007

Bryan Smolinski 2008

Robert Lang 2009

Ryan O'Byrne 2010-2011

Jay Leach 2010

James Wisniewski 2011

Colby Armstrong 2013

Thomas Vanek 2014

Manny Malhotra 2015

Christian Thomas 2016

Victor Bartley 2016

Zach Redmond 2017

Nicolas Deslauriers 2018-2019

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[417]

Must be a new policy. Suzuki was wearing 88 before.

Probably just a rookie thing - and considering how steeped in tradition hockey is, I wouldn't be surprised if many coaches/GM felt this way.

Especially considering many of them are former players...and I can this type of thing annoying players.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

If they ever give KK some wingers, instead of the leftovers, he would show them!!

I expect this kid to get 50 pts this year. We can only hope RDS doesn't lose their minds if he gets some PP time.

KK will not get the most talented wingers on his line. The best wingers belongs to the two best centers so far : Danault and Domi. So KK have to play with the best of the rest and try to make a positive line despite everything.

 

[Mrb1p]

Is this for real? Fleury had to trade in his jersey number for a lower one cause Bergevin doesn't like his players to wear high numbers?



Of all the stupidities.

This is so f***ing stupid

 

[BaseballCoach]

he's producing like a 2nd line C but he's among the best 5on5... so, the ONLY reason he isnt producing like a #1C is him not having PP time I guess ???

now before replying, if you ever feel like it, take a few seconds to think about it...

He has good production and defensive stats at 5-on-5, but because he is not a difference maker on the PP and because he can't control the puck like true 1Cs can, he is best in the role of a 2C or 3C.

Do you disagree? Would you like me to say that his 5-on-5 production is poor? That would be a lie. Phil Danault is a good middle six player that does not need sheltering and is a great complement to talented players. What's the problem? His presence didn't stop Domi from amassing 72 points last year. Hopefully it won't stop KK's progression either, but if Chu-Rien screws up, take it up with his boss, (who shouldn't be here either).

 

[Runner77]

So Fleury wears #20 for Habs ...history says his career with Habs will be short..

Players who wore #20 for Habs Montreal Canadiens Sweater Numbers | Hockey-Reference.com

Tom Manastersky 1951

Frank King 1951

Gerard Desaulniers 1951

Jean Beliveau 1951

Paul Meger 1951-1955

Jim Bartlett 1955

Ralph Backstrom 1957

Bronco Horvath 1957

Phil Goyette 1957-1963

Jerry Wilson 1957

Glen Cressman 1957

Guy Rousseau 1957

Murray Balfour 1957

Allan Johnson 1957

Dave Balon 1964-1967

Garry Monahan 1968

Lucien Grenier 1969

Bob Berry 1969

Pete Mahovlich 1970-1978

Cam Connor 1979

Danny Geoffrion 1980

Yvan Joly 1981

Guy Carbonneau 1981

Mark Hunter 1982-1985

Kjell Dahlin 1986-1988

Jyrki Lumme 1989-1990

Sylvain Turgeon 1991-1992

Patrik Carnback 1993

Pierre Sevigny 1994-1995

Craig Conroy 1996

Eric Houde 1997

Valeri Bure 1998

Scott Lachance 1999-2000

Richard Zednik 2001-2006

P.J. Stock 2001

Mike Johnson 2007

Bryan Smolinski 2008

Robert Lang 2009

Ryan O'Byrne 2010-2011

Jay Leach 2010

James Wisniewski 2011

Colby Armstrong 2013

Thomas Vanek 2014

Manny Malhotra 2015

Christian Thomas 2016

Victor Bartley 2016

Zach Redmond 2017

Nicolas Deslauriers 2018-2019

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Holy crap, that's quite the list. Fleury, change it back! There is still time ...

 

[Runner77]

This is so ****ing stupid

Deslauriers had 20 just last year. Just let the player choose what he wants, what a load of croc.

 

[Mrb1p]

Deslauriers had 20 just last year. Just let the player choose what he wants, what a load of croc.

I just dont understand why

 

[ECWHSWI]

He has good production and defensive stats at 5-on-5, but because he is not a difference maker on the PP and because he can't control the puck like true 1Cs can, he is best in the role of a 2C or 3C.

Do you disagree? Would you like me to say that his 5-on-5 production is poor? That would be a lie. Phil Danault is a good middle six player that does not need sheltering and is a great complement to talented players. What's the problem? His presence didn't stop Domi from amassing 72 points last year. Hopefully it won't stop KK's progression either, but if Chu-Rien screws up, take it up with his boss, (who shouldn't be here either).

no coach would use a 50 pts player as a 3rd line C...

nowadays, 50 pts per season nets you a 6M contract at least, who in their right mind would pay 6M+ for someone to play on the 3rd line ?? I mean BC, you sure you arent Marc Bergevin ??