2019 Entry Draft Thread: Part IV

[Hfbsux]

No he's on an absolute tear, 6 of those came against St Cloud, Duluth and Wisconsin.

That's impressive. Kid's just a pure scorer.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Just watched Cozens vs Krebs and Dach vs Robertson today. Does anyone here think that Cozens is a future 1C?

 

[Mrb1p]

Just watched Cozens vs Krebs and Dach vs Robertson today. Does anyone here think that Cozens is a future 1C?

I think he has as much of a chance as Dach. If not more chances.

He does play a winger type of game, but so does Jeff Carter.

 

[Eastern Shores]

Based on the (continued) success of the team this year and the need to acquire LHD talent or defensive talent period, and assuming the top picks of P. Broberg, B. Byram and M. Robertson are already off the board ,would a combination of A.Vlasic, T. Bjornfot, M. Has, A. Honka , and S. Boluc be considered a success?

 

[NotProkofievian]

I think he has as much of a chance as Dach. If not more chances.

He does play a winger type of game, but so does Jeff Carter.

The Edmonton-Saskatoon game I watched was from right in the middle of Kirby's slump, and if that game were any indication, he earned those zeros. But speaking only of skill? I didn't think that Dylan was particularly close to Kirby.

 

[NotProkofievian]

NB, Matthew Robertson is good at hockey.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

We had 11 picks last season, we have 10 picks this year
Should be fun

 

[The Great Weal]

NB, Matthew Robertson is good at hockey.

As much as I like Robertson, I would do everything to try and trade up for Turcotte if he falls even a little bit.

 

[Runner77]

Our picks won’t be as high this year but when you have volume, it puts greater chances on side.

 

[NotProkofievian]

As much as I like Robertson, I would do everything to try and trade up for Turcotte if he falls even a little bit.

Lol imagine us trading up? This guy.

 

[The Great Weal]

Anyone know much about Kolyachonok?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Lol imagine us trading up? This guy.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Anyone know much about Kolyachonok?

Man, don't make me watch another Flint game I had enough last season with Dellandrea.

 

[Mrb1p]

Remember when @The Great Schlemko thought York was better than Robertson HAH

 

[Mrb1p]

The Edmonton-Saskatoon game I watched was from right in the middle of Kirby's slump, and if that game were any indication, he earned those zeros. But speaking only of skill? I didn't think that Dylan was particularly close to Kirby.

Dach oozes with skill and if the draft was based on that id draft him 1st OA. But he suffers from RyJoenitis and Galchenyukenitis.

 

[The Great Weal]

Remember when @The Great Schlemko thought York was better than Robertson HAH

I said that I liked Yorks offensive game better at that point of the season. A lot can change throughout the season. Remember when you said Byram wasnt that good? HAH.

 

[Mrb1p]

I said that I liked Yorks offensive game better at that point of the season. A lot can change throughout the season. Remember when you said Byram wasnt that good? HAH.

Still do stand by the notion that Byram will go too high for his actual worth.

 

[Michelangelo]

Turcotte is the #1 center we've been looking for

 

[Runner77]

Lol imagine us trading up? This guy.

If we look at past drafts, I wonder how many teams were actually successful in moving up in the first round.

 

[Runner77]

Still do stand by the notion that Byram will go too high for his actual worth.

All good, I'll look him up in this thread and past versions and will figure it out. Thanks anyhow.

 

[Habs76]

Based on the (continued) success of the team this year and the need to acquire LHD talent or defensive talent period, and assuming the top picks of P. Broberg, B. Byram and M. Robertson are already off the board ,would a combination of A.Vlasic, T. Bjornfot, M. Has, A. Honka , and S. Boluc be considered a success?

I would consider one of those in the late, late first. So nah.

 

[NotProkofievian]

If we look at past drafts, I wonder how many teams were actually successful in moving up in the first round.

Last year St Louis traded up to pick Dominik Bokk.
2017 Dallas traded up to take Oettinger
2016 St Louis traded up for Thompson and Winnipeg traded up (after taking Laine) to pick Logan Stanley (lol)
2015 NYI traded Griffin for 16 and 33 grabbing Barzal and Beauvillier (not really trading up, more like trading in)
2014 Chicago traded up for Nick Schmaltz
2013 San Jose traded up for Mueller
2012 Buffalo traded up for Zemgus Girgensons
2011 Toronto traded up for Biggs (lol)
2010 We traded up for Tinordi (lmao)

 

[Runner77]

Last year St Louis traded up to pick Dominik Bokk.
2017 Dallas traded up to take Oettinger
2016 St Louis traded up for Thompson and Winnipeg traded up (after taking Laine) to pick Logan Stanley (lol)
2015 NYI traded Griffin for 16 and 33 grabbing Barzal and Beauvillier (not really trading up, more like trading in)
2014 Chicago traded up for Nick Schmaltz
2013 San Jose traded up for Mueller
2012 Buffalo traded up for Zemgus Girgensons
2011 Toronto traded up for Biggs (lol)
2010 We traded up for Tinordi (lmao)

One per draft. Yeah, lmao all right on the 2010 move up. Thanks for doing this.

There were more than I thought there might be. Still, it's a one time occurrence for each draft, which doesn't make it a high probability that any particular team has an edge.

 

[NotProkofievian]

I dunno guys I haven't really found a pet prospect yet. Where did all the Lundkvists go?

I just watched the most recent game between Barrie and Miss. and my thoughts are: we probably already have the better Suzuki, and Harley, at least in that game, didn't seem to understand his position very well. What I mean by that is that he will fold like a cheap suit against a pro forecheck. One possible reason for this is that he seems to be the anti-Ikonen with his skating: he has a powerful stride, but his ability to change directions seemed fairly limited. That said, the one time during the game in which he aggressively shook forechecking pressure he chipped the puck past Suzuki before going end to end for the game winning overtime goal. But overall, the performance didn't match the scoresheet, IMO.

Suzuki is probably the most skilled ''in range'' player for us, and a center to boot. But at least in this game, he left me wanting (a lot) more. Again, a situation where the scoresheet, with his two assists, didn't really tell the whole story. He seemed content to stay on the perimeter for most of the game, rarely testing the opponents with his puck skills. His playmaking ability is top notch, though.

 

[NotProkofievian]

One per draft. Yeah, lmao all right on the 2010 move up. Thanks for doing this.

There were more than I thought there might be. Still, it's a one time occurrence for each draft, which doesn't make it a high probability that any particular team has an edge.

I actually think trading back might be the more profitable strategy. More generally, just doing whatever it takes to get more kicks at the can. One idea which, so far as I know, has never been attempted in the NHL, is to trade a later pick this year for an earlier pick next year. This is done in the NFL, though. For example, if you have an early 2nd this year, and a contender really wants a player, you could ask for a protected first in the following year, and look to trade that pick back for multiple picks in that draft.

If you really went whole hog on this approach, and assuming you could get takers for the last idea, you'd have to focus a lot of your drafting in Europe and NCAA to manage the contracts, because you'd be drafting a lot.