2019 Entry Draft Thread (HF Draft Discord server, post #652)

[habsfan891]

Podkolzin falls to 15. All of the other consensus top 12 or so are gone including Newhook. What do you do?

A) run to the podium and take him
B) hesitate before reluctantly taking him
C) draft someone else (or trade down)

A

 

[covfefe]

I’m so torn on taking a D in the 1st. If we are convinced the guy is top 4 material, great, and my limited viewings of Seider, Heinola, York and Soderstrom do support that thought. But I’m seeing a lot of intriguing D ranked outside of the 1st:

- Korczak
- Johnson
- Kolyachonok
- Misyul
- Knyazev sp?
- Bolduc
- Johansson
- Ahac
- Zach Jones
- Spence
- Fairbrother

Don’t get me wrong, there’s a gap between those guys and the D ranked in the 1st. But I feel that gap is smaller than it is for the draft’s comparably-ranked forwards. Just something I’ve been mulling over...think I saw b1p mention something similar

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Well, the odds of all of the US development team's highly-ranked guys living up to their rankings are incredibly slim. There are probably a couple of busts in the group, question is, which ones?

Are you suggesting the fact that they were on the same team actually changes their odds of success?

 

[phillytennis]

Plenty things I would call Grant a clown for. The Lassi Thomson take isn't one of them.

Im more comfortable with him than York or Harley.

Really....I prefer Broberg, Seider, Harley in that order.

 

[BeliveauFan4ever]

Are you suggesting the fact that they were on the same team actually changes their odds of success?

Nope. I'm suggesting taking any 6-7 highly-rated guys at random and the likelihood there's a bust in the mix is high.

That there are 6-7 from the same team doesn't immunize them.

 

[CHarlie]

Philly is really high on Boldy but with Knight being available at #11 i could see them finally getting there franchise goalie.......now with that being said, lets say Boldy drops to #15. If i was the GM of the habs i would call Fletcher up and make this offer.....
To Philly.....pick#15, Shaw and Byron
To Mtl....Gostisbehere, Ratcliffe

Just playing armchair GM.......can hardly wait for Friday night

 

[Hfbsux]

Philly is really high on Boldy but with Knight being available at #11 i could see them finally getting there franchise goalie.......now with that being said, lets say Boldy drops to #15. If i was the GM of the habs i would call Fletcher up and make this offer.....
To Philly.....pick#15, Shaw and Byron
To Mtl....Gostisbehere, Ratcliffe

Just playing armchair GM.......can hardly wait for Friday night

Philly already have their franchise goaltender.

 

[Frozenice]

Are you suggesting the fact that they were on the same team actually changes their odds of success?

Playing on a stacked team makes it easier for a player with a habit of making poor decisions (especially under pressure) able to hide this by playing with really good line mates. Other things like being able to pad your stats, not being stressed out or having to play really hard all the time (like when you’re up 7-2 at the end of 2 periods) .

 

[covfefe]

Philly is really high on Boldy but with Knight being available at #11 i could see them finally getting there franchise goalie.......now with that being said, lets say Boldy drops to #15. If i was the GM of the habs i would call Fletcher up and make this offer.....
To Philly.....pick#15, Shaw and Byron
To Mtl....Gostisbehere, Ratcliffe

Just playing armchair GM.......can hardly wait for Friday night

Philly has Carter Hart, the kid is a stud, it would be batsh** crazy for them to take Knight at 11.

 

[BeliveauFan4ever]

Playing on a stacked team makes it easier for a player with a habit of making poor decisions (especially under pressure) able to hide this by playing with really good line mates. Other things like being able to pad your stats, not being stressed out or having to play really hard all the time (like when you’re up 7-2 at the end of 2 periods) .

That freaking program builds familiarity, which helps fuel their WJC teams.

 

[webersshot]

Philly is really high on Boldy but with Knight being available at #11 i could see them finally getting there franchise goalie.......now with that being said, lets say Boldy drops to #15. If i was the GM of the habs i would call Fletcher up and make this offer.....
To Philly.....pick#15, Shaw and Byron
To Mtl....Gostisbehere, Ratcliffe

Just playing armchair GM.......can hardly wait for Friday night

If boldy drops to 15 we take boldy. Also Philly has Carter Hart. That's their franchise goalie

 

[WinterLion]

The trend really seems to be that C's are getting picked higher and higher. Who are some C's that may shoot up into the top 15 like Hayton and Dellandrea last year?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Is Philly high on Boldy? The rest of that post was so bad I don't know if it's true.

The trend really seems to be that C's are getting picked higher and higher. Who are some C's that may shoot up into the top 15 like Hayton and Dellandrea last year?

Tomasino is the only one.. outside shot at McMichael.. but the best C's are at the top, Hughes-Dach-Turcotte-Zegras. After that, you've got Cozens who's gonna end up on the W imo and then it's Tomasino.

 

[ProspectsFanatic]

The trend really seems to be that C's are getting picked higher and higher. Who are some C's that may shoot up into the top 15 like Hayton and Dellandrea last year?

Tomasino

 

[WinterLion]

Tomasino is the only one.. outside shot at McMichael.. but the best C's are at the top, Hughes-Dach-Turcotte-Zegras. After that, you've got Cozens who's gonna end up on the W imo and then it's Tomasino.

Yeah I think Tomasino goes high.

Do you think Lavoie will play C in the show?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Yeah I think Tomasino goes high.

Do you think Lavoie will play C in the show?

Nope, he's pretty much a winger already at the junior level.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Nope. I'm suggesting taking any 6-7 highly-rated guys at random and the likelihood there's a bust in the mix is high.

That there are 6-7 from the same team doesn't immunize them.

Nor does it have any meaning in any way

Playing on a stacked team makes it easier for a player with a habit of making poor decisions (especially under pressure) able to hide this by playing with really good line mates. Other things like being able to pad your stats, not being stressed out or having to play really hard all the time (like when you’re up 7-2 at the end of 2 periods) .

It also means for some that they have to share ice time and have limited opportunities to produce such as PP time distribution.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter that much either way to professional scouts because (unlike message board stat/clip cowboys) they collectively are able to form an educated opinion based solely on their own observations.

 

[Michoulicious]

Tomasino is the only one.. outside shot at McMichael.. but the best C's are at the top, Hughes-Dach-Turcotte-Zegras. After that, you've got Cozens who's gonna end up on the W imo and then it's Tomasino.

If LA end up with Byram, I feel they're gonna want to jump in the teens to draft quality C before they are all gone. I'm pretty convinced all of Turcotte/Krebs/Newhook/Zegras will be gone at #15, and I could see them giving up #22 + #33 to move up and grab Tomasino if that is the case. If rumors are true and Timmins and co. are really high on Thomson, they should jump on that, pick him at #22 where he most likely will be available and try to get another quality prospect with #33.

I feel Ottawa will want to do the same for a C.

 

[WinterLion]

If LA end up with Byram, I feel they're gonna want to jump in the teens to draft quality C before they are all gone. I'm pretty convinced all of Turcotte/Krebs/Newhook/Zegras will be gone at #15, and I could see them giving up #22 + #33 to move up and grab Tomasino if that is the case. If rumors are true and Timmins and co. are really high on Thomson, they should jump on that, pick him at #22 where he most likely will be available and try to get another quality prospect with #33.

I feel Ottawa will want to do the same for a C.

Why is it always LA at 22? Do they want to trade that pick? I think they need to get more picks not give them up... their pool is really really thin

 

[Michoulicious]

Why is it always LA at 22? Do they want to trade that pick? I think they need to get more picks not give them up... their pool is really really thin

It's all based on Chicago getting Turcotte and them Byram. If they get Turcotte, I expect them to stay put and pick one of the Ds that slide.

 

[HabsMD97]

I just hope if newhook or boldy fall to 15 we don't pass on them to pick a d, there will be a lot of them in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. If boldy is there at 13 they should definitely try to move up.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

What round would you guys consider Brinkman in? I would think about taking him in the 4th depending on who is available, and would definitely take him with one of our 5ths

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Why is it always LA at 22? Do they want to trade that pick? I think they need to get more picks not give them up... their pool is really really thin

It is always L.A. because they have 2 firsts and a high 2nd. They have the currency to move up, it is that simple.

 

[Legend123]

What round would you guys consider Brinkman in? I would think about taking him in the 4th depending on who is available, and would definitely take him with one of our 5ths

in the brink of the first

 

[Mrb1p]

Lol at the Tomasino love while shrugging off McMichael. McMichael is a much better goalscorer than Tomasino. McMichael has better production when you account for team and his tools are just flat out more impressive.