Prospect Info: 2019 Draft: 1st Pick: Philip Broberg - Part 2

[Paralyzer008]

Hey guys, I wanted to discuss some recent comments by J.D. Burke on TSN in Vancouver

Basically, there's a rift going on between Jim Benning and their scouting staff right now - and a very interesting nugget came out of it.

Apparently Jim Benning wanted Broberg, and the scouts wanted Podkolzin. The scouts in Vancouver were very worried that Broberg was playing a bit of 4LW for his team in Sweden, saying he "lacked major hockey sense and defensive ability" and wondered if he'd ever play in the NHL.

Link is here: https://post.futurimedia.com/ckstam/playlist/listen-24338.html

Quotes about Broberg start around the 11:00 left mark.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Hey guys, I wanted to discuss some recent comments by J.D. Burke on TSN in Vancouver

Basically, there's a rift going on between Jim Benning and their scouting staff right now - and a very interesting nugget came out of it.

Apparently Jim Benning wanted Broberg, and the scouts wanted Podkolzin. The scouts in Vancouver were very worried that Broberg was playing a bit of 4LW for his team in Sweden, saying he "lacked major hockey sense and defensive ability" and wondered if he'd ever play in the NHL.

Link is here: https://post.futurimedia.com/ckstam/playlist/listen-24338.html

Quotes about Broberg start around the 11:00 left mark.

JD Burke cracks me up. Calling the Vancouver a unique market because some fan can name a couple of scouts.. Burke has had little interaction with other markets I suspect

 

[CycloneSweep]

Hey guys, I wanted to discuss some recent comments by J.D. Burke on TSN in Vancouver

Basically, there's a rift going on between Jim Benning and their scouting staff right now - and a very interesting nugget came out of it.

Apparently Jim Benning wanted Broberg, and the scouts wanted Podkolzin. The scouts in Vancouver were very worried that Broberg was playing a bit of 4LW for his team in Sweden, saying he "lacked major hockey sense and defensive ability" and wondered if he'd ever play in the NHL.

Link is here: https://post.futurimedia.com/ckstam/playlist/listen-24338.html

Quotes about Broberg start around the 11:00 left mark.

Broberg apparently hasn't been a defender long so him playing like a forward makes sense.

Now the question is, is Benning or his scouts better talent evaluators. Normally outside the first round the scouts have free reign over the picks. Vancouver has been terrible at drafting outside the first round. 3 picks in the past 10 years have made it to 100 games. (Edmonton sitting at 7).

So as much as I'm not a Broberg fan, id take Vancouver's scouts opinions with a very fine grain of salt.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Broberg apparently hasn't been a defender long so him playing like a forward makes sense.

Now the question is, is Benning or his scouts better talent evaluators. Normally outside the first round the scouts have free reign over the picks. Vancouver has been terrible at drafting outside the first round. 3 picks in the past 10 years have made it to 100 games. (Edmonton sitting at 7).

So as much as I'm not a Broberg fan, id take Vancouver's scouts opinions with a very fine grain of salt.

Take what JD Burke said with a truck load of salt. When he started talking about Jonathen Dahlin and how he wanted out of Vancouver. Dahlin did not want to be in North America, he gave it a shot and made it clear he wanted to go home to Sweden. Dahlin also wanted out of the Sens organization. The kid got home sick for Sweden

 

[Oilhawks]

Broberg apparently hasn't been a defender long so him playing like a forward makes sense.

Now the question is, is Benning or his scouts better talent evaluators. Normally outside the first round the scouts have free reign over the picks. Vancouver has been terrible at drafting outside the first round. 3 picks in the past 10 years have made it to 100 games. (Edmonton sitting at 7).

So as much as I'm not a Broberg fan, id take Vancouver's scouts opinions with a very fine grain of salt.

Seems like Vancouver's first round picks have panned out at least decently recently, only one that comes to mind that's questionable is Juolevi (we'll see).

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[Canovin]

Seems like Vancouver's first round picks have panned out at least decently recently, only one that comes to mind that's questionable is Juolevi (we'll see).

The same can be said about the Oilers

2013-Nurse
2014-Drai
2015-McDavid
2017-Yamo

2016 is still in pending. Same as the Nucks

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Bouchard and McLeod responded to that:

 

[Frank the Tank]

Tomas Monten, Sweden's head coach at the World Juniors, spoke with Mark Masters at TSN about Broberg's development

Tomas Monten on top Swedish prospects, Philip Broberg’s improvement - TSN.ca

When we spoke about Oilers prospect Philip Broberg last summer you said that playing defence with Skelleftea would help him, because he would need to play more of a shutdown role. What development did you see in him?

"He's been more thorough. He can still move the puck and skate the puck and can create offence, but he just makes better reads and knows when to go and try and skate through situations. He's a little smarter and knows when to check the puck and when he can make plays. He got to play a lot in defensive situations both with us and Skelleftea. He played a lot of PK for us and played with [Tobias] Bjornfot on our first pairing and played a lot against top lines and that's what he needs to do to make the NHL. I mean, he's always going to have his skating and he has the skills to skate the puck and break the systems down, but for him to play in the NHL he needs to play the whole ice and that's what he learned this year."​

 

[belair]

At worst, Broberg will be a pretty valuable trade chip down the road. Nurse could also be moved to the right side.

Nurse, Bear, Bouchard at RD
Klefbom, Samourkov, Broberg at LD

Agreed. Broberg is a long-term prospect. I wouldn't expect him in NA until the 2021-22 season at the very earliest. His NHL ETA runs parallel to the timelines where Klefbom and Nurse are seeking new deals.

 

[GOilers88]

I hope this kid puts a lot of critics to bed for the Oilers and Holland for taking him.

 

[Zaddy]

Tomas Monten, Sweden's head coach at the World Juniors, spoke with Mark Masters at TSN about Broberg's development

Tomas Monten on top Swedish prospects, Philip Broberg’s improvement - TSN.ca

When we spoke about Oilers prospect Philip Broberg last summer you said that playing defence with Skelleftea would help him, because he would need to play more of a shutdown role. What development did you see in him?

"He's been more thorough. He can still move the puck and skate the puck and can create offence, but he just makes better reads and knows when to go and try and skate through situations. He's a little smarter and knows when to check the puck and when he can make plays. He got to play a lot in defensive situations both with us and Skelleftea. He played a lot of PK for us and played with [Tobias] Bjornfot on our first pairing and played a lot against top lines and that's what he needs to do to make the NHL. I mean, he's always going to have his skating and he has the skills to skate the puck and break the systems down, but for him to play in the NHL he needs to play the whole ice and that's what he learned this year."​

That's why I liked him staying in Sweden. He wouldn't have learned how to play defense in OHL.

 

[Game 8]

I hope this kid puts a lot of critics to bed for the Oilers and Holland for taking him.

The old Draisaitl vs Bennett thread at the draft was a prime example. Success has a thousand fathers failure is an orphan.

 

[Senor Catface]

The old Draisaitl vs Bennett thread at the draft was a prime example. Success has a thousand fathers failure is an orphan.

So, success has a lot in common with Freddy Krueger...

That was my main takeaway.

 

[Game 8]

So, success has a lot in common with Freddy Krueger...

That was my main takeaway.

If thats your main takeaway your in trouble.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I hope this kid puts a lot of critics to bed for the Oilers and Holland for taking him.

I'm sure there will still be some posters who show up and point at his limited point totals and act like they've watched him play.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I'm sure there will still be some posters who show up and point at his limited point totals and act like they've watched him play.

I'm more than willing and humble enough to eat crow when I'm wrong like I was with Yamamoto (still have concerns about his size and his longevity but Imma enjoy his game either way). Either way it'll be a few years before he sees NHL minutes so we got some time left

 

[Paralyzer008]

Broberg still reminds me of 1 of these 2 things

- Ristolainen but less talented offensively

- Nurse without the toughness

I always felt like Nurse + Ristolainen were similar players with gaps in offensive ability, Nurse is better in 1v1 defending scenarios.

Broberg's ceiling is in that range.

I personally find both Nurse and Ristolainen as overrated guys, but they play a top 4 role in the NHL. Broberg has a shot at that still for sure, and wow is he built. It's going to be all about his IQ.

 

[Rufus Aslegard]

Any information on how Broberg looks in camp?

 

[Draiskull]

Any information on how Broberg looks in camp?

He scored one of the 3 goals for his team as per someone's tweet yesterday.

 

[Todd Parchment]

What an exciting prospect for the future. Could be our Duncan Keith or Neidermayer or Coffey

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Broberg still reminds me of 1 of these 2 things

- Ristolainen but less talented offensively

- Nurse without the toughness

I always felt like Nurse + Ristolainen were similar players with gaps in offensive ability, Nurse is better in 1v1 defending scenarios.

Broberg's ceiling is in that range.

I personally find both Nurse and Ristolainen as overrated guys, but they play a top 4 role in the NHL. Broberg has a shot at that still for sure, and wow is he built. It's going to be all about his IQ.

You think his CEILING is a Shitty version of Ristolainen?

 

[CycloneSweep]

You think his CEILING is a Shitty version of Ristolainen?

I see his ceiling as a Ristolainin/Nurse mix without the offense of either. I think his ceiling is a decent 2nd pairing guy

 

[Rpenny]

What an exciting prospect for the future. Could be our Duncan Keith or Neidermayer or Coffey

??????????? Is this your form of sarcasm? He is Klefbom 2.0

 

[Todd Parchment]

??????????? Is this your form of sarcasm? He is Klefbom 2.0

No, he has the potential to be that good or at least have that style of play. Not even close to being a Klefbom style player. Just because he is Swedish and good looking....