Prospect Info: [2019 - 206th] Kieran Ruscheinski (Not Signed - Rights Expire)

[Whitesnake]

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[WeThreeKings]

It's clear this guy should have been out last ranked prospect.

 

[Habs]

The BCHL is such an odd league. Two teams churn out some talent, the rest are just ... below average teams.

 

[Tighthead]

The BCHL is such an odd league. Two teams churn out some talent, the rest are just ... below average teams.

It's pretty much populated by guys going the NCAA route who aren't pro prospects, correct?

Which are the two teams?

 

[Habs]

It's pretty much populated by guys going the NCAA route who aren't pro prospects, correct?

Which are the two teams?

Pretty much. Its for kids that can't make the WHL, or are decent (not great) players that want a free college ride. Pencticton and Victoria turn out the odd player, Vernon used to but its been a while since they have. Prince George has had some good teams the last 4 years as well.

I'm not trying to insult the kids that play there, god knows you have to be a decent player, but the step from the BCHL to the WHL is enormous.

 

[Tighthead]

Pretty much. Its for kids that can't make the WHL, or are decent (not great) players that want a free college ride. Pencticton and Victoria turn out the odd player, Vernon used to but its been a while since they have. Prince George has had some good teams the last 4 years as well.

I'm not trying to insult the kids that play there, god knows you have to be a decent player, but the step from the BCHL to the WHL is enormous.

A family friend is playing for Cow Valley as a 16 year old - he was a high pick in the WHL but I don't know if he is on track or not. I get the impression very few kids are sure things to even make the WHL.

 

[Habs]

A family friend is playing for Cow Valley as a 16 year old - he was a high pick in the WHL but I don't know if he is on track or not. I get the impression very few kids are sure things to even make the WHL.

That is not unusual in the BCHL, sometimes a drafted WHL player can play there till they get called up etc. I also have a friend of mines kid who is drafted in the WHL but plays in the BCHL to get ice time when possible.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Ruscheinski with his first point of the season. An assist. Salmon Arm are up 3-1 on West Kelowna after two periods.

 

[Adam Michaels]

After going pointless in the first 8 games, Ruscheinski has had 2 assists in the last two games.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I watched a little of Ruscheinski last night vs the Smoke Eaters (great name), he was physical and he's tall.

Was he better than you expected at least?

 

[montreal]

Was he better than you expected at least?

I only watched about a periods worth, the game was ok since they scored several goals on both sides but he didn't really do much. I could see him back in the BCHL next year.

 

[1909]

Wasted late pick... as usual.

 

[Lebowski]

Wasted late pick... as usual.

I think your expectations for late picks are out of whack or else 99% of them should be considered wasted picks.

Primeau was also a 7th round pick, by the way.

 

[1909]

I think your expectations for late picks are out of whack or else 99% of them should be considered wasted picks.

Primeau was also a 7th round pick, by the way.

If they can find a Primeau or a Halak, they can also do better than this Alberta league kid for sure.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Wasted late pick... as usual.

It was an In Memoriam pick for their deceased scout. I think they should have paid homage to him before announcing the Caufield pick vs. wasting a pick on this guy when you could have taken Hlavaj (one of the best goalies in the Q this year) or Gogolev (a sniper with tons of speed playing with Hillis).

 

[montreal]

It was an In Memoriam pick for their deceased scout. I think they should have paid homage to him before announcing the Caufield pick vs. wasting a pick on this guy when you could have taken Hlavaj (one of the best goalies in the Q this year) or Gogolev (a sniper with tons of speed playing with Hillis).

yea that would have been better, we'll see what happens to this kid but they surely did some odd stuff at the draft that hopefully they don't do going forward.

 

[calder candidate]

I think your expectations for late picks are out of whack or else 99% of them should be considered wasted picks.

Primeau was also a 7th round pick, by the way.

Guys like Primeau are exception but there are plenty of guy that slip or go undrafted every year, and they aren’t hinded gems they are just bypass for what ever reason. There had to be better prospect, this just seem like the wildest most random pick since Conor Crisps...

 

[JoelWarlord]

I think your expectations for late picks are out of whack or else 99% of them should be considered wasted picks.

Primeau was also a 7th round pick, by the way.

Well exactly, in recent years a 7th round could be Primeau or Evans, and even Stapley had a solid freshman year and is now PPG in his 2nd NCAA season. It could be locking in a good QMJHL overager like Harvey-Pinard if you don't think there's much left and you want to get his rights instead of gambling on signing him as a UFA. It's not that we should expect every 7th to turn into Primeau/Evans but even if they didn't turn into legitimate prospects at least it's a worthwhile gamble to pick a goalie who scouts well with meh stats or a guy with good numbers in Jr. A.

I think taking a guy out of Midget AAA with 11 points who looks like Bambi when he skates is a bad pick even for the 7th round.

 

[Whitesnake]

Sucks that the Habs decided to pick the least interesting player and one we already know will never play in the pros since Timmins came in IN HONOUR of our deceased scout....

 

[Andrei79]

He has to be the worst draft pick I can recall.

 

[26Mats]

Wasted late pick... as usual.

What's the profile of a successful 7th round pick?

Is there even one?

With Primeau they went sigging where no on else went. His high school coach said no one went to talk with him because of his numbers.

I kind of like that they went digging. But I always expect our 6th and 7th round picks to bust. We haven't had 1 successful 6th round pick, and only Streit, Halak, and Primeau have panned out after the 6th round. And we'rr probably at least top 10 or 5 in the league for finding that much talent after the 6th round.

 

[Habs]

If they can find a Primeau or a Halak, they can also do better than this Alberta league kid for sure.

To be fair, Salmon arm is a long ways from Alberta.

 

[1909]

To be fair, Salmon arm is a long ways from Alberta.

Sorry. But he is born in Alberta. That's what I meant. And last season, he was playing in Alberta.

 

[FloJack]

That is not unusual in the BCHL, sometimes a drafted WHL player can play there till they get called up etc. I also have a friend of mines kid who is drafted in the WHL but plays in the BCHL to get ice time when possible.

I went to so many Chilliwack Chiefs games in the late 80's to early 90's, mostly to see girls from the schools I didn't go to, but also because I like hockey. I do remember seeing Paul Kariya on Penticton, but was too young to have seen Brett Hull.

 

[JoelWarlord]

What's the profile of a successful 7th round pick?

Is there even one?

There's not really a template for success in the 7th but Evans/Stapley/Primeau were all good picks and IMO Harvey-Pinard was fine even if he becomes nothing. I'll lump Dichow and Khisamutdinov in as "digging" picks where they went off the board. I don't have any issue if they're digging for Jr. A stars, USHL goalies with meh stats who scout well, good QMJHL overagers, MHL overagers with some KHL games, or big Danish goalies signed to a good Swedish team with good int'l stats are all worthwhile gambles. Guys playing in good leagues or with good international experience and/or interesting tools that are hard to find.

I think digging for a guy with 11 points in Midget AAA is a bit of a different thing. I'm definitely relieved to learn that this was an in memoriam pick, as much as it frustrates me that teams do this stuff (or NJD drafting Brodeur's kid etc) it's better than the alternative of the team thinking this was actually a reasonable gamble.