OT: 2019-2020 NCAA Hockey Thread

[Mickey the mouse]

I'll take option #1

 

[Digitalbooya]

I'll take option #1

Nate (gopherstate) retweeted something that said Minnesota hadn't given up 8 goals in a non-exhibition match at home since 1997.

Here it is:

 

[57special]

The Gophers D zone coverage was pretty bad. Leaving guys wide open in front of the net.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

They’re so far away from even being a decent team.

 

[Northerner]

No excuse losing to any team 8-2. The Gophers aren't that bad.

 

[Digitalbooya]

No excuse losing to any team 8-2. The Gophers aren't that bad.

Based on?

 

[Dakota Sioux]

UND takes down Denver in overtime in Denver. Game goes as a tie as nobody scored in the 5 minute 5 on 5 overtime but the Sioux get an extra point in the standings as they scored on the 3 on 3 overtime. Very well played game and Scheel for the Sioux came up big on a handful of grade A chances by the Pioneers.

 

[Northerner]

Based on?

I'm guessing there is no better area/program in North America to recruit?

 

[Digitalbooya]

I'm guessing there is no better area/program in North America to recruit?

Minnesota is either the worst or second worst team in the big ten based on the showings so far this year.

I’d argue that North Dakota has an advantage over Minnesota/Wisconsin due to their academic standards. All being in the heart of the hockey world in the U.S.

 

[Dakota Sioux]

UND takes 5 of 6 points in Denver.
UND makes statement with 4-1 win at No. 2 Denver | Grand Forks Herald

 

[57special]

I know some of the kids on the Gophers. Trust me, they aren't a bunch of academic geniuses.

 

[Digitalbooya]

I know some of the kids on the Gophers. Trust me, they aren't a bunch of academic geniuses.

Acceptance rate:
UND ~ 84% (avg GPA: 3.47, SAT: 1160, ACT: 24)
UW ~ 54% (avg GPA: 3.84, SAT: 1359 , ACT: 29)
UMN ~ 50% (avg GPA: 3.84, SAT: 1358, ACT: 28)

80%+ acceptance rate = safety school

 

[TJL48]

Now do hockey players. If you are a good enough hockey player I don't think those numbers mean much at any of those schools.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Now do hockey players. If you are a good enough hockey player I don't think those numbers mean much at any of those schools.

I'm pretty sure there are minimum standards you have to meet just to get into the school. I can remember a former UW football coach throwing a hissy fit because he couldn't get the recruits he wanted because of UW's academic standards.

Wisconsin's admission standards pushed Gary Andersen to Oregon St.

 

[57special]

Again, U of MN hockey players just have to show up to class and work a bit. I'm not saying that there aren't some smart hockey players there. I am saying that you are kidding yourself if you think that some of them would EVER be admitted if they weren't athletes.

Bottom line is that U of MN are not limited in the kids that they can recruit, for the most part. Ivies are a different story...I'm not sure about Michigan.

 

[Dakota Sioux]

UND set to announce Nashville game | Grand Forks Herald

 

[Northerner]

Minnesota is either the worst or second worst team in the big ten based on the showings so far this year.

I’d argue that North Dakota has an advantage over Minnesota/Wisconsin due to their academic standards. All being in the heart of the hockey world in the U.S.

I'm not talking about academics. MN has produced more NHLers. Tham any other state. AnAnd UMN is in the heart of it and many kids want to wear that sweater more than snything. So...they should be one of the easiest programs to recruit for...especially since we no longer do the MN-born. only thing anymore either.

 

[Dakota Sioux]

I'm not talking about academics. MN has produced more NHLers. Tham any other state. AnAnd UMN is in the heart of it and many kids want to wear that sweater more than snything. So...they should be one of the easiest programs to recruit for...especially since we no longer do the MN-born. only thing anymore either.

The everyone wants to wear the M is not as big as it use to be. That’s pretty obvious

 

[Digitalbooya]

I'm not talking about academics. MN has produced more NHLers. Tham any other state. AnAnd UMN is in the heart of it and many kids want to wear that sweater more than snything. So...they should be one of the easiest programs to recruit for...especially since we no longer do the MN-born. only thing anymore either.

With that being said, you said the gophers are not that bad. You haven’t answered my question: based on what?

 

[Northerner]

4-6-2 or whatever they are would indicate they aren't very good. What I was suggesting was that I believe Motzko is to blame for some of it.

 

[Digitalbooya]

4-6-2 or whatever they are would indicate they aren't very good. What I was suggesting was that I believe Motzko is to blame for some of it.

Oh yeah, Motzko seems to be getting some backlash through many of the gophers fans I know. Kinda sucks, but building a program your way takes time and proper recruiting/teaching.

 

[Northerner]

I'm not sure how it works when a program brings in a new coach(es) - if commits un-commit, or how that all works.


Regarding the Gophers coaching position - if we were to ask college hockey coaches (and/or potential coaches) what their most sought-after coaching position would be in college hockey, who do you think they would put at the top of the list?


Minnesota
UND surely
Michigan has to be up there
Boston College?
Wisconsin
Maine?


I mean there aren't that many programs to begin with (comparable to college football or basketball, for example), so I would put Minnesota right up in the top of the list. They still generally get the pick of the litter, so to speak.


It's just a good place to recruit to and yes they still probably

 

[57special]

Notre Dame. BU and BC, for sure. There are all sorts of people who'd rather live in the Northeast or CO, rather than Minnesota.

 

[Saga of the Elk]

Notre Dame. BU and BC, for sure. There are all sorts of people who'd rather live in the Northeast or CO, rather than Minnesota.

For sure.

Cornell - best location
Harvard
Yale - interesting rink anyhow, and good pizza
Dartmouth - obviously Hanover crushes New Haven as a place to live but the program is weak

Princeton
Brown -- all better due to the perks of free tuition for your kids, possibly, and nice places to live

BU
BC
Northeastern -- better due to living in Boston / prestigious programs (not a big Boston fan, but it's a city)

CC
Denver -- yes, Colorado is nice

Notre Dame -- for the right person, sure. Close to Chicago.

Wisconsin - Madison is a much nicer city than MSP, easier recruiting due to being a better school, etc., rebuilding program trending up
Michigan - Ann Arbor is terrible and so is the town

UMD -- easier recruiting for kids who come from small towns in MN, AB, SK, BC, plus program success... top of the food chain in terms of student life, dating life generally

North Dakota -- recruiting advantage/facilities

Penn State -- no thanks

Miami of Ohio - nice town, well-endowed program

Ohio State -- offers anonymity I guess

Colgate -- good school, nice little town

Providence -- good school I guess?

UMN -- troubled times, booster interference, crazy campus, sprawling suburban area

Mankato
Bemidji - should be better?
St. Cloud -- probably easier to recruit kids to St. John's

Michigan State

U Mass - Lowell

Air Force -- kind of hard to get in, I've heard

 

[Northerner]

Edit.

Four programs more nat championships than gophers. WI MI Denver and ND