Line Combos: 2019/2020 Lineup

[coladin]

Now Josh Norris is officially a Senator, wonder how it makes even more sense for some short term vets like Spezza to keep Belleville loaded with prospects.

 

[topshelf15]

What about a player coach to teach the kids? Spezza has a ton of experience to pass on, i have no illusion or even desire that he will significantly improve the team but i do think he can aide the development of our players.

Spezza is going to teach them what exactly??We have creativity and offensive ability with our kids...No need to tie up that prime ice time,with a one way forward...

 

[stempniaksen]

Spezza is going to teach them what exactly??We have creativity and offensive ability with our kids...No need to tie up that prime ice time,with a one way forward...

I think the point is to not put a kid in a spot where he needs prime ice-time.

Spezza would also teach the kids A LOT. The guys has played in 1000+ NHL games, has almost 1000 points (regular season and playoffs combined), has worn a letter for 5+ seasons and was a captain in the league. If you think he couldn't pass along some wisdom I think you're out to lunch. I'm sure the 2nd or 3rd best offensive player in franchise history could find something to teach our young forwards.

 

[BondraTime]

Spezza is going to teach them what exactly??We have creativity and offensive ability with our kids...No need to tie up that prime ice time,with a one way forward...

Anyone who has played 1000+ games at the NHL level is invaluable to a team with young guys

 

[Micklebot]

Spezza is going to teach them what exactly??We have creativity and offensive ability with our kids...No need to tie up that prime ice time,with a one way forward...

If you don't see what a guy with 1000 games of experience could teach our young forwards then i probably won't convince you

 

[Ouroboros]

Really can't understand why they wouldn't qualify Duclair... Doesn't make a lot of sense to me; he either becomes the player people have hoped he would, or he doesn't and we don't care because this season is a write off. I mean, I've seen no evidence that he's toxic in the room, he seems well liked, and we've got a new Head coach that's supposed to be good with young guys and motivating them.

Also surprised to see Davidsson on your roster. I know there was talk he was on the verge of making Clb last season, but I would imagine they'd want him in the AHL before stepping right in, though we don't have a ton of other options unless we play a guy like Boedker.

When it comes to Duclair, I'm just reading the tea leaves so to speak. When Dorion was asked about him during his year-end presser he gave a wishy-washy response and ended it by saying something to the effect of 'we have to speak to the coaches and scouts to see if there's a fit for him'. Acting President of Hockey Operations Bruce Garrioch has also indicated that the Sens still aren't sure if they're going to offer him a deal.

I think it's possible that the Sens have some concerns about an arbitration ruling. A 19 goal/33 point season could land Duclair a salary the team isn't comfortable with. Or maybe he was just a throw-in to balance the contracts in the Dzingel trade and his hot streak to end the season has given them something to think about. Who knows. Either way it seems like his return next season isn't a guarantee.

I included Davidsson mostly because I couldn't come up with a better option. Personally, I'd prefer if the Sens were to re-sign Lindberg and put him in that spot, but it doesn't seem like that's in the cards. Another option might be to trade Harpur for a depth forward on a higher salary/short-term deal that a team wants to dump.

 

[coladin]

Anyone who has played 1000+ games at the NHL level is invaluable to a team with young guys

1000 at an all-star level

 

[Micklebot]

...I included Davidsson mostly because I couldn't come up with a better option. Personally, I'd prefer if the Sens were to re-sign Lindberg and put him in that spot, but it doesn't seem like that's in the cards. Another option might be to trade Harpur for a depth forward on a higher salary/short-term deal that a team wants to dump.

What about Veronneau? I thought he showed pretty well, and while I think he would ideally start in Belleville, I'm more comfortable (due to familiarity) with him than Davidsson

 

[Sen sational]

Unless Verroneau or some other roookie blows them away at training camp, any of Paajarvi, Giibboons, Lindberg would be goood placeholders until kids are ready to come up. Have no problem healthy scratching those guys. If there is no room later on, put them on waivers. If not claimed they would be good role models in Belleville.

 

[Micklebot]

Unless Verroneau or some other roookie blows them away at training camp, any of Paajarvi, Giibboons, Lindberg would be goood placeholders until kids are ready to come up. Have no problem healthy scratching those guys. If there is no room later on, put them on waivers. If not claimed they would be good role models in Belleville.

Paajarvi, Gibbons and Lindberg all need to be re-signed before training camp, I doubt more than one is signed though.

We already have enough guys I don't mind healthy scratching as it is, no need to add more.

 

[Tkachuk27]

Paajarvi, Gibbons and Lindberg all need to be re-signed before training camp, I doubt more than one is signed though.

We already have enough guys I don't mind healthy scratching as it is, no need to add more.

Gibbons yes the other two can be replaced with youth like Brown & Batherson

 

[Icelevel]

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[topshelf15]

Anyone who has played 1000+ games at the NHL level is invaluable to a team with young guys

Yep as a coach....Spezza is done as a full time player,like I have said we dont need a PP specialist....The kids should have first dibs on those mins

 

[TheNewEra]

What say you of a 3 year deal worth somewhere from 18-21 million for one of them? Think it would get it done or in any way realistic?

i think simmonds gets massively overpaid, as in more than that being a powerforward and all

besides that i dont see either of them taking a three year deal. Simmonds is 30 and eberle is 29 this is their last chance to cash in on the ufa market, they are going to be looking at 5-6 year deals at least imo

 

[BondraTime]

Yep as a coach....Spezza is done as a full time player,like I have said we dont need a PP specialist....The kids should have first dibs on those mins

We have more than enough minutes. Tkachuk, White and Chabot had tons of pp time with all of Duchene, Stone and Dzingel, Spezza isn't going to detract minutes from any of our kids.

 

[topshelf15]

We have more than enough minutes. Tkachuk, White and Chabot had tons of pp time with all of Duchene, Stone and Dzingel, Spezza isn't going to detract minutes from any of our kids.

Spezza is slow and defensively unreliable ,yes he can score some points in favorable conditions ...But he isnt the type of veteran we need to add right now IMHO..We already have a slow one way player in Ryan we dont need to clutter up this fast young team with more like him...Ps you know I still love you as a poster

 

[BondraTime]

Spezza is slow and defensively unreliable ,yes he can score some points in favorable conditions ...But he isnt the type of veteran we need to add right now IMHO..We already have a slow one way player in Ryan we dont need to clutter up this fast young team with more like him

There's no cluttering up. It would be a short term contract to fill the void while we are an awful team.

We don't have enough forwards as is right now, and we won't get to choose our guy through UFA. If a vet like Spezza wants to sign a short term contract on a young team that is not going to win games, you make that every day.

He's exactly the type of guy that we should be adding, he's been in the league 17 years, knows how to score and set up plays, and knows how to adjust his game. Would come on a short term deal, and wouldn't cost much money. Tkachuk/White/Chabot would be lucky to have a guy like him.

We aren't trying to win next year, Spezza would be a great guy in the locker room if he agreed to come here.

 

[Micklebot]

Yep as a coach....Spezza is done as a full time player,like I have said we dont need a PP specialist....The kids should have first dibs on those mins

So, which kid will center the 2nd PP? Pageau Tierney or Smith? Or do we rush Brown? Heck, even if we want Brown up, there is still room for Spezza on the PP

Tkachuk-Brown-White
Chabot-DeMelo

Duclair/Balcers-Spezza-Batherson
Brannstrom-Jaros

We don't need to save a spot for the likes of Tierney Smith and Boedker on the PP which is what we'll likely end up with if we don't add to our current roster.

Tierney, Boedker, Smith, and Pageau don't really belong on the PP but will end up there if we don't add guys to keep them off, and the team isn't going with an all rookie cast, some guys will stay down in Belleville. Right now, we simply don't have 6 NHL ready forwards that belong on a PP, and there is a good chance that like many teams, we'll try and run with 4 forwards each unit, so there's room for 8. The idea that Spezza will stall the development of the kids by taking valuable mins is without merit imo.

 

[benjiv1]

Yep as a coach....Spezza is done as a full time player,like I have said we dont need a PP specialist....The kids should have first dibs on those mins

You can’t have a team without vets, or you end up with the Oilers.

Spezza back to Ottawa makes a ton of sense, granted we can move on from Smith.

 

[topshelf15]

There's no cluttering up. It would be a short term contract to fill the void while we are an awful team.

We don't have enough forwards as is right now, and we won't get to choose our guy through UFA. If a vet like Spezza wants to sign a short term contract on a young team that is not going to win games, you make that every day.

He's exactly the type of guy that we should be adding, he's been in the league 17 years, knows how to score and set up plays, and knows how to adjust his game. Would come on a short term deal, and wouldn't cost much money. Tkachuk/White/Chabot would be lucky to have a guy like him.

We aren't trying to win next year, Spezza would be a great guy in the locker room if he agreed to come here.

That is the only place he would be good though lol,he doesnt have any game left...Maybe if he comes to help the tank is where you are going then ok, Iam on board....

 

[topshelf15]

You can’t have a team without vets, or you end up with the Oilers.

Spezza back to Ottawa makes a ton of sense, granted we can move on from Smith.

Lol I dont like Smith as much as the next guy,but adding a guy like Spezza to replace him does what exactly???Spezza cant play 5 on 5 anymore,he is too slow and will have our kids trying to carry him when he is on the ice

 

[topshelf15]

So, which kid will center the 2nd PP? Pageau Tierney or Smith? Or do we rush Brown? Heck, even if we want Brown up, there is still room for Spezza on the PP

Tkachuk-Brown-White
Chabot-DeMelo

Duclair/Balcers-Spezza-Batherson
Brannstrom-Jaros

We don't need to save a spot for the likes of Tierney Smith and Boedker on the PP which is what we'll likely end up with if we don't add to our current roster.

Tierney, Boedker, Smith, and Pageau don't really belong on the PP but will end up there if we don't add guys to keep them off, and the team isn't going with an all rookie cast, some guys will stay down in Belleville. Right now, we simply don't have 6 NHL ready forwards that belong on a PP, and there is a good chance that like many teams, we'll try and run with 4 forwards each unit, so there's room for 8. The idea that Spezza will stall the development of the kids by taking valuable mins is without merit imo.

Just as the idea Spezza will do much of anything except be a old slow forward that needs sheltered mins,but hey he will be good in the locker room...Waste of a signing

 

[topshelf15]

There should be better options for us to add a veteran forward,than to sign a broken down Spezza...We have an overabundance of cap room,we should aim a little higher no??

 

[Sweatred]

I don't think any of the kids are auto pegged for Belleville. Formenton made the team 2 years ago. Had he held his own and scored a couple he may have stuck longer. If Norris is a top 2-3 C in camp he will start with the team. I doubt that happens, and I doubt if it did he could handle the first 10 games .. but my point is their play will dictate their roll in the organization. Batherson would have stayed up had he not shown he needed to go back down etc. We have tonnes of cap room and waiving an experienced 4th liner on this team shouldn't be a concern.

 

[BondraTime]

There should be better options for us to add a veteran forward,than to sign a broken down Spezza...We have an overabundance of cap room,we should aim a little higher no??

Any suggestions that would come here?