2019-2020 Best NHL Players: Voting (Results Out Now)

Theokritos

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Toronto Maple Leafs (3 ballots, max 30 points)
Rank:Player:Position:Country:1st:2nd:3rd:4th:5th:Ballots:Points:
1.Auston MatthewsFAmerica30000330
2.John TavaresFCanada01110324
3.Mitch MarnerFCanada01020323
4.Morgan RiellyDCanada00200316
5.Fredrik AndersenGDenmark00002212
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Voters:
@Morgs
@seventieslord
@Toronto Maple Beast
 

Theokritos

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Vancouver Canucks (3 ballots, max 30 points)
Rank:Player:Position:Country:1st:2nd:3rd:4th:5th:Ballots:Points:
1.Elias PetterssonFSweden12000328
2.Jacob MarkströmGSweden20010327
3.Quinn HughesDAmerica01110324
4.J. T. MillerFAmerica00012319
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Voters:
@bh53
@CH
@wetcoast
 
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Theokritos

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Vegas Golden Knights (3 ballots, max 30 points)
Rank:Player:Position:Country:1st:2nd:3rd:4th:5th:Ballots:Points:
1.Mark StoneFCanada20100328
2.Shea TheodoreDCanada12000328
3.Reilly SmithFCanada01011322
4.Max PaciorettyFCanada00110215
4.William KarlssonFSweden00001.51.59
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Voters:
@BattleBorn
@Buck Naked
@hangman005
 
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Theokritos

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Winnipeg Jets (3 ballots, max 30 points)
Rank:Player:Position:Country:1st:2nd:3rd:4th:5th:Ballots:Points:
1.Connor HellebuyckGAmerica30000330
2.Mark ScheifeleFCanada02010325
3.Nikolaj EhlersFDenmark01200325
4.Kyle ConnorFAmerica00020.52.517
4.Patrik LaineFFinland00001.51.59
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Voters:
@Duke749
@Hunter368
@Romang67
 
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Theokritos

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Simultaneously to this voting, @BHD organized a poll on the Pittsburgh Penguins board to determine the top 5 players of their club in the 2019-20 season. The votes: Yevgeni Malkin 51, John Marino 47, Jake Guentzel 38, Sidney Crosby 33, Tristan Jarry 31, Bryan Rust 30.
 

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Thanks for doing this! It’s awesome and I’m sure took some serious effort. Love getting different perspectives on stuff like this.


Winnipeg Jets (3 ballots, max 30 points)
Rank:Player:Position:Country:1st:2nd:3rd:4th:5th:Ballots:Points:
1.Connor HellebuyckGAmerica30000330
2.Mark ScheifeleFCanada02000325
3.Nikolaj EhlersFDenmark01200325
4.Kyle ConnorFAmerica00020.52.517
4.Patrik LaineFFinland00001.51.59
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Voters:
@Duke749
@Hunter368
@Romang67

Noticed Scheifele has 2 2nd place votes but is on 3 ballots. Think it’s missing a 4th place vote if my math checks out.
 

Theokritos

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Next week I will run a bias analysis and compare how players did on ballots from fans of Eastern Conference teams and on ballots from fans of Western Conference teams.
 

Theokritos

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Bias Analysis

Out of the 41 voters who submitted ballots for the positional categories, 20 identified themselves as fans of an Eastern Conference team and 19 resp. 20 as fans of a Western Conference team. (One did for a Western Conference team, but without submitting a ballot for his team.) Another voter was unaffiliated. In order to figure out which players got more points from Eastern voters and which more from Western voters, I tallied the ballots from Eastern Conference fans separately now. (I could also have used the Western Conference ballots instead, it makes no difference.)

Eastern Conference forwards...
  • ...who benefit from Eastern ballots (resp. are hurt by Western ballots):
Sidney Crosby
Points from Eastern ballots: 150 (64%)
Points from other ballots: 83 (36%)

The biggest gainer from Eastern ballots in absolute terms. Based on Eastern ballots points alone, Crosby would overtake three other forwards to finish 9th instead of 12th.

Brayden Point
Points from Eastern ballots: 172 (59%)
Points from other ballots: 121 (41%)

Based on Eastern ballots, Point would still be 8th, but instead of trailing Auston Matthews by 37 points, he would be just one single point behind him.

Aleksander Barkov
Points from Eastern ballots: 29 (100%)
Points from other ballots: 0 (0%)

Barkov got points from Eastern ballots only, but the sample size is tiny.
  • ...who are hurt by Eastern ballots (resp. benefit from Western ballots):
Jack Eichel
Points from Eastern ballots: 100 (39%)
Points from other ballots: 154 (61%)

Eichel (East) got a big share of his points from fans of the other Conference. Without Eastern ballots, Eichel would be 8th or 9th (tied with Patrick Kane) instead of 11th.

Artemi Panarin
Points from Eastern ballots: 243 (42%)
Points from other ballots: 331 (58%)

Another player who wowed fans from the other Conference more.

David Pastrňák
Points from Eastern ballots: 208 (43%)
Points from other ballots: 274 (57%)

Similkar to Panarin.

Brad Marchand
Points from Eastern ballots: 118 (43%)
Points from other ballots: 158 (57%)

Without Eastern ballots, Marchand would edge out Matthews, Eichel and Kane and rank 7th instead of 11th.

Mika Zibanejad
Points from Eastern ballots: 12 (17%)
Points from other ballots: 59 (83%) -

Very little support from Eastern voters, but several Western votes liked this player from the other Conference.

Western Conference forwards...
  • ...who benefit from Eastern ballots (resp. who are hurt by Western ballots):
Mark Stone
Points from Eastern ballots: 65 (75%)
Points from other ballots: 12 (25%)

This Western Conference got an even bigger share of his points from Eastern voters than Crosby. Based on Eastern ballots, Stone would still be 15th, but instead of trailing Yevgeni Malkin (14th) by 40 points he would be tied with im in points.

Elias Pettersson
Points from Eastern ballots: 40 (63%)
Points from other ballots: 23 (37%)

Note the tiny sample size.

Ryan O'Reilly
Points from Eastern ballots: 29 (67%)
Points from other ballots: 14 (33%)

Again, tiny sample size.
  • ...who are hurt by Eastern ballots (resp. who benefit from Western ballots):
Patrick Kane
Points from Eastern ballots: 125 (45%)
Points from other ballots: 154 (55%)

Without Eastern ballots, Kane would overtake Brayden Point and almost catch up with Auston Matthews. But at the same time, he would be edged out by Brad Marchand and tied by Jack Eichel.

Leon Draisaitl
Points from Eastern ballots: 323 (46%)
Points from other ballots: 383 (54%)

Just like Kane, Draisaitl got a bigger share of his points from fans of his own Conference. Without Eastern ballots, he would rank closer to Connor McDavid and Nathan MacKinnon.

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Other positions to follow.
 
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Theokritos

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Defensemen

The following defensemen have a relatively balanced share of points from both Conferences:

Defenseman based in the East: Hedman, Jones, Weber.
Defensemen based in the West: Heiskanen, Theodore, Suter, Karlsson, Ellis, Klingberg.

Eastern Conference defensemen...
  • ...who benefit from Eastern ballots (resp. who are hurt by Western ballots):
Thomas Chabot
Points from Eastern ballots: 28 (100%)
Points from other ballots: 0 (0%)

Ivan Provorov
Points from Eastern ballots: 34 (76%)
Points from other ballots: 11 (24%)

Charlie McAvoy
Points from Eastern ballots: 85 (60%)
Points from other ballots: 56 (40%)

Kris Letang
Points from Eastern ballots: 36 (55%)
Points from other ballots: 30 (45%)

Jaccob Slavin
Points from Eastern ballots: 166 (53%)
Points from other ballots: 148 (47%)
  • ...who are hurt by Eastern ballots (resp. who benefit from Western ballots):
Rasmus Dahlin
Points from Eastern ballots: 0 (0%)
Points from other ballots: 30 (100%)

Zach Werenski
Points from Eastern ballots: 52 (36%)
Points from Other ballots: 93 (64%)

Aaron Ekblad
Points from Eastern ballots: 23 (41%)
Points from other ballots: 37 (59%)

Dougie Hamilton
Points from Eastern ballots: 93 (44%)
Points from other ballots: 118 (56%)

John Carlson
Points from Eastern ballots: 258 (47%)
Points from other ballots: 287 (53%)

Western Conference defensemen...
  • ...who benefit from Eastern ballots (resp. who are hurt by Western ballots):
Jared Spurgeon
Points from Eastern ballots: 41 (100%)
Points from other ballots: 0 (0%)
  • ...who are hurt by Eastern ballots (resp. who benefit from Western ballots):
Brent Burns
Points from Eastern ballots: 0 (0%)
Points from other: 66 (100%)

Mark Giordano
Points from Eastern ballots: 12 (24%)
Points from other ballots: 37 (76%)

Drew Doughty
Points from Eastern ballots: 14 (26%)
Points from other ballots: 40 (74%)

Quinn Hughes
Points from Eastern ballots: 100 (44%)
Points from other ballots: 129 (56%)

Cale Makar
Points from Eastern ballots: 189 (46%)
Points from other ballots: 226 (54%)

Roman Josi
Points from Eastern ballots: 375 (47%)
Points from other ballots: 410 (53%)

Alex Pietrangelo
Points from Eastern ballots: 287 (48%)
Points from other ballots: 307 (52%)
 
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Theokritos

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Continuing the bias analysis with the goaltender position.

Goaltenders with a relatively balanced share of points from both Conferences:

Based in the East: Vasilevskiy, Lehner* (*traded from one Conference to the other during the season).
Based in the West: Hellebucky, Khudobin, Bishop.

Eastern Conference goaltenders...
  • ...who benefit from Eastern ballots (resp. are hurt by Western ballots):
Carey Price
Points from Eastern ballots: 62 (77%)
Points from other ballots: 19 (23%)

Overall, Eastern voters ranked him #4 among goaltenders. For Western voters on the other hand, Price was an afterthought.

Carter Hart
Points from Eastern ballots: 34 (71%)
Points from other ballots: 14 (29%)

A bigger share of points from Eastern voters too, but the sample size for Hart is small.

Tuukka Rask
Points from Eastern ballots: 155 (55%
Points from other ballots: 125 (45%)

If only Eastern ballots counted, Rask would overtake Andrei Vasilevsky and rank #2 instead of #3.
  • ...who are hurt by Eastern ballots (resp. benefit from Western ballots):
none

Western Conference goaltenders...
  • ...who benefit from Eastern ballots (resp. who are hurt by Western ballots):
John Gibson
Points from Eastern ballots: 24 (62%)
Points from other ballots: 15 (38%)

A bigger share of points from the other Conference, but again, the sample size is very small.
  • ...who are hurt by Eastern ballots (resp. who benefit from Western ballots):
Dary Kuemper
Points from Eastern ballots: 32 (31%)
Points from other ballots: 70 (69%)

Based on Eastern ballots alone, he would rank behind Price, Lehner and Hart. Western ballots were crucial in putting Kuemper 6th overall.

Jacob Markström
Points from Eastern ballots: 36 (32%)
Points from other ballots: 77 (68%)

Based on Eastern ballots alone, Markström would rank behind Khudobin, Price and Lehner. Western ballots helped him to his 4th place.
 

KrisLetAngry

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Kucherov should have been #1. Not sure how Draisaitl ended up behind MacK (it can't be playoffs because McDavid is 1st). Lol @ Crosby being 12th. 47pt season and missing the playoffs = 12th best in the league? Would love to hear the logic of the people voting him top 5. What a joke.

Best player of play offs.

Regular season he was meh but you are omitting his injury he had an average looking season still put up 47 In 41 which I agree isn't impressive for him or the league.

However if he played 70 games he has 80 points like Matthews.

So ye I can see him being just outside of the top 10.
 

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Best Forwards (41 ballots, max 820 points)

RankPlayer:Country:Team:1st:2nd:3rd:4th:5th:6th:7th:8th:9th:10th:Ballots:Points:
1.Connor McDavidCanadaEdmonton Oilers2088301001041774
2.Nathan MacKinnonCanadaColorado Avalanche13177130000041774
3.Leon DraisaitlGermanyEdmonton Oilers8810621301140706
4.Nikita KucherovRussiaTampa Bay Lightning03210114620038609
5.Artemi PanarinRussiaNew York Rangers0469102011235574
6.David PastrňákCzechiaBoston Bruins0015412631032482
7.Auston MatthewsAmericaToronto Maple Leafs002013282725330
8.Brayden PointCanadaTampa Bay Lightning001135224321293
9.Patrick KaneAmericaChicago Blackhawks000023543421279
10.Brad MarchandCanadaBoston Bruins000103625421276
11.Jack EichelAmericaBuffalo Sabres002122244118254
12.Sidney CrosbyCanadaPittsburgh Penguins012310125116233
13.Alexander OvechkinRussiaWashington Capitals000002242111145
14.Yevgeni MalkinRussiaPittsburgh Penguins000010133210127
15.Mark StoneCanadaVegas Golden Knights0000011113787
16.Mika ZibanejadSwedenNew York Rangers0000001023671
17.Sebastian AhoFinlandCarolina Hurricanes0000000123670
18.Elias PetterssonSwedenVancouver Canucks0000100112563
19.Patrice BergeronCanadaBoston Bruins0000000211449
20.Ryan O'ReillyCanadaSaint Louis Blues0000012000343
21.Aleksander BarkovFinlandFlorida Panthers0001000010229
22.Sean CouturierCanadaPhiladelphia Flyers0000010001226
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Players who appeared on only one single ballot omitted.

McDavid and MacKinnon are tied on points. The number of 1st-place votes is the tie-breaker.

The other rankings & the list of voters are going to follow.

I really enjoy the fact that some deem it insulting when MacKinnon gets ranked over McDavid on "professional" lists, but it required a tie-breaker here.
 

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I really enjoy the fact that some deem it insulting when MacKinnon gets ranked over McDavid on "professional" lists, but it required a tie-breaker here.
I can't help but think that the points system is a little poor here. That shouldn't be a tie at all.
 

Theokritos

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I can't help but think that the points system is a little poor here. That shouldn't be a tie at all.

I've been going back and forth on the point system before deciding on it a few years ago. The idea was to prevent a small number of high votes for one player from having a big impact. But looking at the result this year in the Best Player category (a tie with 20-13 first place votes), I'm inclined to agree with you.
 

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