2019-2020 - Around the League (All non-Stars NHL Talk here)

[Kcb12345]

Dillon and DeMelo both traded today

 

[serp]

Deadline shows once again will pretty much have no deals left to talk about.

 

[Johno]

Deadline shows once again will pretty much have no deals left to talk about.

Down goes Marco

 

[serp]

Down goes Marco

The f*** is this ? Since when is Marco Scandella worth a second rounder + a conditonal pick.

 

[Johno]

The **** is this ? Since when he Marco Scandella worth a second rounder + a conditonal pick.

Funniest part is how he was only worth a 4th like six weeks ago

 

[Kcb12345]

Holy shit trade Fedun now

 

[Kcb12345]

Will be interesting to see if the Blues try and replace Bouwmeester too though

I guess we know the answer to this now

 

[Kcb12345]

Now Martinez to Vegas for 2 2nds soon

 

[LT]

Down goes Marco

Wow I hate this for St Louis

Which means I love it for Dallas

 

[JesusNPucks]

John Buccigross has an article on ESPN ranking the top-20 American players. Discuss, if you care to do so. (Is this even the right forum? EDIT: Moderator, can you please move it if it isn't?)

Personally, I'm okay with Kane at the top; I think he might truly be the best American player ever, even though his total career numbers aren't quite at Modano's level (yet). However, I'm perplexed that he has (the immensely talented) Matthews already at #2. Seems waaaaaaay too premature to do that, doesn't it?

 

[M88K]

Nevermind the fact that Chelios is in that conversation for #1too, Matthew's doesn't belong above him or MO yet

 

[Smelling Salt]

I'm fine with Kane's placement (Modano is my fav player). I wouldn't rank Matthews that high already. And no John, he will not be scoring 700 goals.

The overall list isn't horrible. Mark Howe is waaaaaaaaaaaay too low though. Behind Carlson lmao.

 

[serp]

The list has too much recency bias.

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

Wow I hate this for St Louis

Which means I love it for Dallas

Seems like Armstrong has at least learned not to give firsts away every year, like he seemed to do in Dallas. Not really, just 03, 07, 08, all to make the most of Mo and Zubie's last years. Gainey traded them in 98 and 99.

 

[JesusNPucks]

Nevermind the fact that Chelios is in that conversation for #1too, Matthew's doesn't belong above him or MO yet

No joke. He's a great candidate for #1.

I'm fine with Kane's placement (Modano is my fav player). I wouldn't rank Matthews that high already. And no John, he will not be scoring 700 goals.

The overall list isn't horrible. Mark Howe is waaaaaaaaaaaay too low though. Behind Carlson lmao.

Yeah, that's a pretty huge projection (700 goals) for someone who's played less than 300 NHL games.

The list has too much recency bias.

Yeah, I think you're bang on. That's a big problem in the list.

 

[BigG44]

 

[BigG44]

I'm not sure I agree with Ellis here that it was a hockey play. Seems like he's being diplomatic.

 

[eartotheground]

I'm not sure I agree with Ellis here that it was a hockey play. Seems like he's being diplomatic.

pretty sure they're friends going back a ways.

 

[LT]

Perry was suspended for a while, meaning it obviously wasn’t a hockey play...

 

[Hockey Dad]

I don’t think the hit was as bad as seemed. Not sure if Ellis really lost balance or tried a bit of a dive. If his face did not hit the ice then he would not have had the concussion.

 

[BeaverSports]

I'd definitely say Leetch, Chelios and Joe Mullen should be higher and there's a debate for someone like Howe as well. Matthews is too high for what he's accomplished to date - and, personally, I'm not convinced I take him over Eichel now.

Kane is an amazing talent, but I also think Modano might have been more complete.

 

[BigG44]

This is slightly alarming. They were apparently very much in on Kreider, and the other team that was mentioned frequently was Colorado.

Definitely not interested in seeing Kreider land in Colorado ...

 

[BigG44]

Andy is really dialed in, and he mentioned this earlier this morning. There were reports in the past month that Anaheim would take cap dumps. I wonder if these could be tied in some way.

 

[BigG44]

Oh damn ... they are:

 

[Kcb12345]

Oh damn ... they are:

Damn good deal for the Bruins if that's it. Kase is a damn good player if he can stay healthy