Speculation: 2019-20 Trade Speculation and Discussion

[eartotheground]

Also saw on some other pages that the stars are talking to Columbus about Janmark. Not sure if true. Has anyone else heard that.

you gots a link?

 

[Zapp]

you gots a link?

Keep seeing this get talked about but cant find any valid source

 

[Rory]

Mike Hoffman
Daniel Sprong
Thoughts?

I would take Hoffman. He can score.

 

[M88K]

Mike Hoffman
Daniel Sprong
Thoughts?

Doubt Florida is looking to move Hoffman, and if they are it won't be for futures as they are currently in a PO position.

 

[Henderson33]

Keep seeing this get talked about but cant find any valid source

Only place I see it is from fake twitter accounts claiming they have sources.

 

[Hockey Dad]

Mike Hoffman
Daniel Sprong
Thoughts?

I would love to have Hoffman

 

[serp]

I would love to have Hoffman

Thats not happening. Panther are in the playoff hunt this year.

 

[Hockey Dad]

Thats not happening. Panther are in the playoff hunt this year.

I know but I think that is the type player they need. I think they have people that create. They could use a player that creates but the way the roster is setup they don’t have room

 

[Sports2]

You’re going to get Getzlaf and you’re going to like it.

 

[Blindsummit]

You’re going to get Getzlaf and you’re going to like it.

oh please god no. (runs screaming from room).

 

[M88K]

You’re going to get Getzlaf and you’re going to like it.

OK, but you have to retain 50% and take back Cogliano in said deal

 

[Sports2]

OK, but you have to retain 50% and take back Cogliano in said deal

Cogliano+ for Getzlaf at 50% is actually probably not terribly unrealistic. You have to admit he’s obviously a Nill type player. Stick him with Perry and see what happens. That’s hella depth too.

 

[Rory]

oh please god no. (runs screaming from room).

I would take Getzlaf. At least he can pass the puck to the right spot. Need a pass first type of a guy. But there is no way to fit his salary.

 

[pbatx]

I would take Getzlaf. At least he can pass the puck to the right spot. Need a pass first type of a guy. But there is no way to fit his salary.

We need a pass to the right player guy. At 50% retained I am in on him, 1 year left on his contract and the real money is only 3mil (still would be a 4.1-ish cap hit)

 

[JeffP]

coyotes phil kessel ready to be sold low on?

they seem to have an affinity for our players there
a real hocky deal boyz

 

[LT]

I wonder if Thornton would be of any interest, or if he's too old and dried up for this team. He's absolutely too slow, but I could see a limited role.

His offensive style is certainly something this team could use.

 

[serp]

I wonder if Thornton would be of any interest, or if he's too old and dried up for this team. He's absolutely too slow, but I could see a limited role.

His offensive style is certainly something this team could use.

He's too slow for the Stars style of play. It's already why Pavelski doesn't really fit here and why Spezza didn't work out so great the last few years. Stars play defensively but not slow. Pavelski is at least also a very good grinder which Spezza was not and Thornton also isn't

 

[Rory]

He's too slow for the Stars style of play. It's already why Pavelski doesn't really fit here and why Spezza didn't work out so great the last few years. Stars play defensively but not slow. Pavelski is at least also a very good grinder which Spezza was not and Thornton also isn't

I wish pavelski would do more scoring. But I do wonder if he is bringing a ton of leadership to that locker room. There is no quit in this team. Even when they are down. They did not have that last year. They went down going into the third and it was over. Now we have a shot. I wonder if pavelski brings that element to the game.

 

[eartotheground]

nice article in the athletic breaking down trade possibilities. spoiler alert, without devouring the system, there ain't much out there.

my thought though is, the stars have ~4.5M in cap space they can use because of LTIR... could they be in a position to take someone's cap dump just to dump in the minors, and recoup some picks in the process?

 

[BrettHullsToe]

my thought though is, the stars have ~4.5M in cap space they can use because of LTIR... could they be in a position to take someone's cap dump just to dump in the minors, and recoup some picks in the process?

I'm no capologist, but don't the Stars need all the available cap they can get for bonuses this season to minimize the carryover for next season?

 

[serp]

I'm no capologist, but don't the Stars need all the available cap they can get for bonuses this season to minimize the carryover for next season?

IRC you can't use LTIR space to absorb overages from bonus money . At least thats what i was told.

 

[eartotheground]

IRC you can't use LTIR space to absorb overages from bonus money . At least thats what i was told.

pretty sure this. and that LTIR space goes away next year. it's use it now or lose it if i understand correctly.

 

[JesusNPucks]

Also saw on some other pages that the stars are talking to Columbus about Janmark. Not sure if true. Has anyone else heard that.

That would be great. He has nice speed (e.g. plenty of breakaways), but doesn't capitalize. Get a pick for an easily-replaceable player.

 

[BigG44]

Player has to be called up on LTIR in order for his bonuses to use LTIR space. That's why Gurianov couldn't come up late last season. They couldn't fit his salary and bonuses on the remaining LTIR. Sucks because it was pretty much impossible for him to earn a bonus last year.

This year, he's a virtual lock for a $212,500 bonus. Good thing he's not picking up assists because that's keeping him from the assists and points bonus.

 

[eartotheground]

Player has to be called up on LTIR in order for his bonuses to use LTIR space. That's why Gurianov couldn't come up late last season. They couldn't fit his salary and bonuses on the remaining LTIR. Sucks because it was pretty much impossible for him to earn a bonus last year.

This year, he's a virtual lock for a $212,500 bonus. Good thing he's not picking up assists because that's keeping him from the assists and points bonus.

can you help me understand this quote from the athletic?

Cap space also comes into play. At this moment the Stars have $815 in cap space. No, there isn’t a zero missing from that figure. Dallas does, however, have $4.75 million available if they wanted to dip into the long-term injured reserve money they saved after Martin Hanzal’s career effectively came to a close.

Dallas Stars trade deadline primer: What's the cost of...

seems like they could use that LTIR space to acquire someone (cap dump) in trade.. does that mean you'd have to keep them up and couldn't move them to the minors/waive them?