Speculation: 2019-20 Trade Speculation and Discussion

[M88K]

I'd argue we sent our best team to the Traverse tournament last year.

The year we had a top 3 pick playing in it?

 

[MrHeiskanen]

The year we had a top 3 pick playing in it?

Heiskanen was not at Traverse last year, no.

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[serp]

The prospect pool right now is the strongest i can remember . Well the one year where Heiskanen was a prospect maybe but that doesn't really count to me.

 

[M88K]

Heiskanen was not at Traverse last year, no.

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He was at the 2018-2019 season (last year ) prospect tournament .
He wasn't at the 19-20(this year) one but you can't think that roster was the best we've ever sent

 

[M88K]

The prospect pool right now is the strongest i can remember .

You have a bad memory then.
3 players doesn't make a strong prospect pool

 

[serp]

You have a bad memory then.
3 players doesn't make a strong prospect pool

The prospect pool under Armstrong , Hull/Jackson and Niewy sucked pretty badly. A few guys later turned out pretty well but the majority of the time the guys in the AHL waiting for callups were guys like Tom Wandell

 

[M88K]

The prospect pool under Armstrong , Hull/Jackson and Niewy sucked pretty badly. A few guys later turned out pretty well but the majority of the time the guys in the AHL waiting for callups were guys like Tom Wandell

Newy regime brought in
Smith, Klingberg, Lindell, Faksa, Oleksiak, Ritchie, Chiasson, McKenzie, nemeth, Dillon, roussel, jokipakka, morrow, eakin, and Shore.
Of those 3 are key players that make up the core of this team. 2 more were traded for our #1center.
And 1 other was traded for our previous #2center
Some fizzled out obviously. But all showed promise at one point.


Nill has Robertson, Harley and Oettinger of even give a pity view to include Dellandrea after 7 years. That is still left in the farm of any substance

 

[serp]

Newy regime brought in
Smith, Klingberg, Lindell, Faksa, Oleksiak, Ritchie, Chiasson, McKenzie, nemeth, jokipakka, morrow, eakin, and Shore.
Of those 3 are key players that make up the core of this team. 2 more were traded for our #1center.
Some fizzled out obviously. But all showed promise at one point

Yeah and all those guys only became key players under Nill . Well into Nills tenure as well. Yes Niewys draftpicks but most of those never even played AHL when he was here. Good draftpicks but they developed under Nill . Alot of this is also because the team got an owner who was willing to go out and spend money on player development including buying the Texas Stars.

 

[M88K]

Yeah and all those guys only became key players under Nill . Well into Nills tenure as well. Yes Niewys draftpicks but most of those never even played AHL when he was here. Good draftpicks but they developed under Nill . Alot of this is also because the team got an owner who was willing to go out and spend money on player development including buying the Texas Stars.

If you want to give Nill credit for something he had nothing to do with sure. They became key players under Nill because he's had an infinite leash for mistakes while Newy got 4 yrs only

 

[Dallasman]

Either way, I can see us trading that late 1st round pick for more picks.

 

[serp]

If you want to give Nill credit for something he had nothing to do with sure. They became key players under Nill because he's had an infinite leash for mistakes while Newy got 4 yrs only

Gaglardi wanted to bring in his own management team and that was his right. I don't think Nill did worse than Niewy who i agree was screwed by the ownership situation at the time but also made some bad decisions.

 

[M88K]

Gaglardi wanted to bring in his own management team and that was his right. I don't think Nill did worse than Niewy who i agree was screwed by the ownership situation at the time but also made some bad decisions.

I'm not defending him as a gm by any means but all those players didn't become key players because of anything Nill did that wouldn't have happened with any other gm including Newy.
He mad a lot of mistakes as GM. How much was him and how much was the budget situation we'll never know but since he never got another shot at gm maybe it was mostly him.
But I don't know how anyone could look at Nills prospect cupboard and think it is strong or even good.
No top 6 centers coming , no top 6 rws coming, 1 top 4 Dman and 1 top 6 LW. And a maybe #1goalie.
After 7yrs of mostly mid to high draft picks

 

[Smelling Salt]

Discussion continues in Part II Speculation: - 2019-20 Trade Speculation and Discussion - Part II