Speculation: 2019-20 Trade Speculation and Discussion
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GumbyCan2
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Near entire career proven to be a "glass slipper" in a rock pile!!
Play 20 games, injured for 10+ games, example.
Never close to draft pedigree hype.
GumbyCan2
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Maybe some value there, but D Strome is going to be a Winnipeg Jet before the Stars get him. Just my opine. Dallas can go after his brother Ryan in NY!
Magic Mittens
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GumbyCan2
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Circumvent (ultimately a form of cheating) the Cap rules and be able to retain aging star players with lots of term on a high salary and stay under the cap to be able to sign other players of value needing big raises off their rfa contracts.
Should not be allowed under the CBA. Kind of sounds like T. O. having numerous LTIR contracts. Trading them back and forth for draft picks and then offering ridiculous contracts to star players and remain cap compliant?? This proposal is basically dissolving a contract in order to keep that player for a new cheap salarytheycan afford. Should not be allowed.
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GumbyCan2
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Just because they need a 2 C which Lowry will never be. And false reality might shine through to hope Janmark could turn into such, with top wingers like KC, BW, PL, NE available to mix & match with Sceifele as well in top-6.
Could Covid-19 brain attack?? Who knows.
Is Janmark that bad, or has no offensive upside? Don't know enough about his regular play to be honest. The offering of Lowry is that while he gives steady, solid defensive shut-down play with physicality and PK abilities all for under $3 mil per season, he has not really progressed to anything more and will never be a scoring threat. He has is value at what he does very well. Winnipeg has similar in Andrew Copp but Copp's offense has scratched the surface only due to limited opportunity for more than a checking/ shut-down role, rarely matched with skilled scoring wingers. ( to note, Matthiue Perrault while talented is not much of a scoring phenom anymore, if ever).
Could Janmark fit in and improve WPG 's 2nd/3rd line production with Copp filling in for Lowry's role and the teamimprove overall? Hope transcends not trying anything, anyways?
GumbyCan2
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Actually, Wpg probably doesn't want Janmark, per se. So, Dallas could give them Seguin for Lowry and Wpg adds Roslovic maybe just to be nice, because Wpg would want Seguin!
Just jarring with you here. Bored I guess and now entering insane territory possibly. Yikes. Go Stars Go...fishing, hunting, 4-wheeiling or whatever for now, hey.
GumbyCan2
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Actually checking stats, Janmark has 1 more career point than Lowry in a whole 111 less games. So, more scoring potential absolutely by a whole point!!
Very similar draft pedigree, etc. Change of scenery for both, new roles or similar with different coaching, faces, surroundings, styles maybe? Lowry would fit the former Dallas mantra of out working and out-hitting your opponent in order to forge out victory along with size!
Magic Mittens
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Yeah Lowry would fit Dallas well, even though we already have Faksa.
I’ve played hockey with Lowry and he’s such a beauty
Smelling Salt
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Lowry would be great especially if Faksa is a goner but Winnipeg does not need or want Janmark. Could argue for him as a Perreault replacement to a degree, but not at the expense of Lowry.
Then again who knows what is going to happen with the cap and expansion coming up quickly. Some weird shit might play out.
Then again who knows what is going to happen with the cap and expansion coming up quickly. Some weird shit might play out.
Diamonddog01
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Canucks fan coming in peace...what would you guys be interested in for Faksa? Would definitely be interested from a Canucks perspective but not sure what the Stars needs are.
M88K
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Pretty sure the stars and nucks aren't going to be trade partners with the bad blood between the owners. Especially after the hamhuis fiasco.
Diamonddog01
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Sure, Stars biggest need is scoring, a player like Boesser is what the Stars need. Faksa doesn't move the needle for someone like him. It's not like the Nucks have a lot of affordable options they'd be willing to part with, so you'd likely be talking a package with several moving parts
Virtanen would be somewhat interesting, but idk if I'd part with Faksa for him.
Guadette too, but neither really helps the Stars much.
Boesser and Erikson(with 2mil retained)
For Benn with 2 mil retained , Faksa and Dellandrea and another plus
Roughly even salary swap. Stars eat 2mil of Benns longer contract (6yrs) vs (3yrs) for Erikssons.
Nucks dump Eriksson. Get a decentish prospect as well just not a lot of offensive upside
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Magic Mittens
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Canucks have some decent young forwards that I could see being in a deal for Faksa. Nill is going to want draft picks this draft, and I could see him dealing Faksa for a younger player and a pick, or something like that
Hockey Dad
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I would make that trade any trade to get rid of Benn. I think he is a major problem here. Not just his play but his attitude
You are right, but I can't see anyone will take him. Maybe at expansion draft for free ...
Hockey Dad
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I am not saying Benn had a bad attitude but he seems to have a lackadaisical attitude that says winning does not matter.
JesusNPucks
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That’s kinda my thoughts as well. Ask him to waive for the expansion draft. There’s no way Seattle would pass on him, and he might actually enjoy being so close to BC and his family. I want him to do well, but have little confidence that it will happen in Dallas again. If he refuses to waive, then perhaps it at least gets the ball rolling on something else.
Ghost of Kyiv
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I dont know man, I don't think there is any chance Seattle would want him. I mean the best thing about an expansion team is you start with zero bad contracts. Last thing I'd want as an expansion team is to pay Jamie Benn $9.5 million a year until he's 35.
JesusNPucks
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Except the Kraken will need to reach the cap floor, and Stars can bribe them with picks and not require salary the other way. I can dream, right?
Troy McClure
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Troy McClure
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With the way the expansion draft works now where every guy picked is a third liner or second pairing d-man, hitting the floor is very easy.
AveryStar4Eva
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With the cap being flat teams are going to either pay the Kraken to take bad contracts or leave decent players that are a bit overpaid. I don’t see them using 11.6% of their cap space on a 39 point forward. Also, Benn is only getting older so he may regress even more during this contract
Sports2
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Getting a coach that will take the shackles off of the offense unlike the last two would be a huge improvement. They really have a pretty good defense and goaltending- it seems like such a no-brainer to let the offense run wild a little and trust your back end. In a way I think the Stars' system almost puts more pressure on your defense and goalies than one that doesn't insulate them- they never get any help offensively and one wrong move puts them in a huge hole.
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