2019/20 Roster Thread XXXIV

[LegionOfDoom91]

35 year old Brian Elliott who was a slightly below average goalie last year isn’t exactly something I’m dying to have back.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Brian Elliott was done two years ago. Move along.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Brian Elliott was a good teammate and seemingly a popular guy in the room. But It’s time to move on. Another vet or hopefully on of the kids on the minors steps ip.

 

[PDX Flyer]

NAK’s shot really impressed me. I figured he would have put up more goals in the AHL with that release.

Gordon effect?

 

[Appleyard]

NAK’s shot really impressed me. I figured he would have put up more goals in the AHL with that release.

Gordon effect?

No-PP time effect.

He was a top 10 EV point-per-game producer in the AHL in 2017-18... and scored even more goals in 2018-19.

 

[PDX Flyer]

No-PP time effect.

He was a top 10 EV point-per-game producer in the AHL in 2017-18... and scored even more goals in 2018-19.

Gotcha thanks. NAK can shoot the puck. Didn’t AV put him on the power play towards the end?

 

[Appleyard]

Gotcha thanks. NAK can shoot the puck. Didn’t AV put him on the power play towards the end?

Yeh, he even got a bit of PP2 time.

He was fantastic from the slot in the Q on one-timers.

 

[CapnZin]

NAK’s shot really impressed me. I figured he would have put up more goals in the AHL with that release.

Gordon effect?

My guess is that he pots 13-15 goals next year if he stays up all year. I don’t think that’s too far off.

He could very well be a ~40 point checking F in the future. He was pacing for 16 goals and 18 assists through 82 games this year in the B6.

With more talent in the lineup next year, and more time to train, I don’t see any reason why that breakout can’t happen next year.

 

[Stizzle]

@Captain Dave Poulin

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

@Captain Dave Poulin

I don't really hate Kurtis Gabriel anymore all of a sudden

As for Bunny, I mean, he's obviously literally the best ever.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Remember when Kurtis Gabriel almost made the roster?

 

[BlackandOrange]

Playing Franchise Hockey Manager 6 exclusively as the GM, so I have no control over lines. Gabriel is a 17/20 enforcer, Giroux is an 18/20 Playmaker, Coots is an 18/20 Two Way Forward, and Gothisbere is a 16/20 Quarterback. Provo is the next best player at 14/20 Mobile Defenceman. AI Vigneault keeps trying to dress Gabriel way too high on my roster. It is infuriating.

 

[Appleyard]

Playing Franchise Hockey Manager 6 exclusively as the GM, so I have no control over lines. Gabriel is a 17/20 enforcer, Giroux is an 18/20 Playmaker, Coots is an 18/20 Two Way Forward, and Gothisbere is a 16/20 Quarterback. Provo is the next best player at 14/20 Mobile Defenceman. AI Vigneault keeps trying to dress Gabriel way too high on my roster. It is infuriating.

I play EHM still instead when I do play. I tried FHM for a while but I dont think the database is close to as good... and I feel it is clunkier.

 

[Deadpool8812]

I play EHM still instead when I do play. I tried FHM for a while but I dont think the database is close to as good... and I feel it is clunkier.

I also like the fact that EHM isn't repackaged every year and overpriced when it is barely improved upon from the following year like FHM is (and also the EA NHL games, which are even more of a joke). Updates are much more convenient for a game like that than "new" versions every season

 

[pacehimself]

I play EHM still instead when I do play. I tried FHM for a while but I dont think the database is close to as good... and I feel it is clunkier.

Are these computer games?

 

[Appleyard]

Are these computer games?

yep.

 

[Appleyard]

I also like the fact that EHM isn't repackaged every year and overpriced when it is barely improved upon from the following year like FHM is (and also the EA NHL games, which are even more of a joke). Updates are much more convenient for a game like that than "new" versions every season

Yeh... it is also so unbelievably mod-able. Can get new rosters from EHM The Blueline that are pretty great... maybe ~3-4 years of future drafts classes with real players, every players face in the game, correct ice logos etc.

Not a surprise though. SI are the greatest management game creators in history.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Yeh... it is also so unbelievably mod-able. Can get new rosters from EHM The Blueline that are pretty great... maybe ~3-4 years of future drafts classes with real players, every players face in the game, correct ice logos etc.

Not a surprise though. SI are the greatest management game creators in history.

Yeah, SI are quite good. I still play FM every now and then, and I'm not a soccer fan at all. Their management aspects are very fun

 

[Appleyard]

Yeah, SI are quite good. I still play FM every now and then, and I'm not a soccer fan at all. Their management aspects are very fun

It came out a few years back that a LOT of professional soccer teams (and Prozone, one of the biggest professional sports data companies) were using Football Manager as a scouting tool and player database... as it was so complete and pretty darn accurate as well.

Everton signed a deal with SI in 2008 to have extra access to their database.
Prozone signed a deal with them in 2014.
Multiple real managers (Solskjaer being one) have said that the game actually helped them be better managers haha.

 

[Deadpool8812]

It came out a few years back that a LOT of professional soccer teams (and Prozone, one of the biggest professional sports data companies) were using Football Manager as a scouting tool and player database... as it was so complete and pretty darn accurate as well.

Everton signed a deal with SI in 2008 to have extra access to their database.
Prozone signed a deal with them in 2014.
Multiple real managers (Solskjaer being one) have said that the game actually helped them be better managers haha.

It sounds crazy at first, but when you realize SI has their own local "scouts" to create their database, it makes sense.

 

[KrazyKat]

Come Playoff time. Everyone’s healthy? What u think Vig is gonna rock?
Now that AHL season is over think maybe Frosty comes in?

Playing Pens in Round 1. I think we beat them with speed. Not size. Remember when Hakstol had Raffl playing on the 1st line

here is what I would do !


Giroux — Couturier — Voracek
Farabee — Hayes — Konecny
JVR — Frost — Aube Kubel
Laughton — Grant — Raffl

 

[KrazyKat]

As for the Defence. Can’t Justify sitting Ghost. Hagg has to be the odd man out.
And I actually like Hagg.

 

[orangey]

You know you're getting Thompson and Hagg... if they actually play... ever again. Sigh.

 

[KrazyKat]

You know you're getting Thompson and Hagg... if they actually play... ever again. Sigh.

that’s what I’m afraid off. I mean I get for depth , those guys are good to have. But to start them over skilled players really hurts to see. f*** this Protecting / Sheltering players. Let’s run up the scoreboard, try to take a run at the Cup!

 

[orangey]

that’s what I’m afraid off. I mean I get for depth , those guys are good to have. But to start them over skilled players really hurts to see. f*** this Protecting / Sheltering players. Let’s run up the scoreboard, try to take a run at the Cup!

To be fair, defensive and overall structure is going to be extremely important after such a long layoff. It's understandable that they will rely on their vets in such a situation, IMO.

That's not to say someone like Gost couldn't get in there as that's a tough call if he is fully healthy (and he looked healthy that last game) but I'd assume Thompson is the 4th center over a rookie center who hasn't really staked out a spot yet. At least that's how I see it playing out.

Ideally they would have a couple/few games as a run up to get guys in there who might be needed to play and go with who looks best for those final couple spots at F and D.