Roster Moves: 2019/20 Roster Thread XXVI [Dec. 29: Andreoff cleared waivers]

[Curufinwe]

If he knew how to ****ing hit, TK might not have been concussed. The fact that Boro****ingwhatever got a massive gash on his eye brow because their heads collided tells me that he has not idea how to line up a hit.

Watch one of Provorovs hit from this year. His body his sideways and he drives his shoulder right through the chest. Boro****face didn't go into the hit sideways which caused the helmet to helmet contact. Because this league is a joke, that is still allowed.

The helmet to helmet contact isn't relevant. Hits don't need to be made side-on. Hits made directly to the body can cause concussions.

 

[Rebels57]

The helmet to helmet contact isn't relevant.

It may have been what caused the concussion, so i'm not sure how you can say that..

 

[Curufinwe]

Because there's nothing in the rule book against players heads colliding as the result of a check. It wasn't a head butt.

 

[deadhead]

I wouldn't want to watch hockey if it became figure skating, you can't take incidental contact out without basically removing all hitting.

It's the egregious crap that needs a hard crackdown, cross checking to the back of the net, slamming guys head first into the boards, throwing elbows at heads, etc.
None of this crap has anything to do with playing physical, it's players deliberately trying to injure other players.

 

[Lord Defect]

It looked to me like Boro had him lined up ready to go, and was dead set on making the hit, puck possession be damned. When it came time to hit, he just staled into him without actually trying to make a check.
I never liked Boro, and thought he was an assclown along the lines of Carrillo and Rinaldo.
I don’t think there was an intent to injure, but an intent to hit willingly taking an interference call for no reason. He gooned it up just to goon it up. The head contact in incidental because the assclown didn’t make an actual check.
Incidental head contact should not be fined or suspension worthy, you cannot control an accident. Sometimes things just happen. It’s an unfortunate occupational injury.
I wish TK the best in a speedy recovery.

 

[DancingPanther]

As if no one saw this coming

 

[JXC]

Incidental doesn’t matter anymore in basketball - if you contact someone’s head, it is reviewed and can result in free throws, possession, and / or disqualification. Football is same, I think.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Maybe Braun shouldn't be passing to someone who is lined up for a hit.


On that note over in the NFL, it was pretty funny to see Brady ring up Edelman with a pass that got him creamed after he gave that interview lamenting how back in his day QBs had to learn not to do that kind of thing.

 

[AdamParrot]

Maybe Braun shouldn't be passing to someone who is lined up for a hit.

This.

Yeah, huge hit. But Braun's fault. No one can pass like that in like this situation.

 

[Starat327]

Take off the orange tinted glasses, fools. Youd love Braun to concuss anyone else not wearing the orange and black. Gr8 hit.

 

[Rebels57]

Because there's nothing in the rule book against players heads colliding as the result of a check. It wasn't a head butt.

I'm aware of that, but the point I was making in the original comment you responded to is that his hitting form was awful, which caused the helmet to helmet contact. Furthermore to that original point, if the league really reduce head injuries as much as possible they will make all head contact illegal, regardless of intent.

 

[deadhead]

The NBA has gone to the opposite extreme, where legitimate basketball plays are called flagrant fouls.

But the NBA has to completely squash any possibility of fighting, b/c serious things can happen when big men start swinging with their feet planted on wood, not ice. There is rarely anyone injured in a NHL fight these days, but one can imagine horrible scenarios if a NBA game got out of control, not just players, but fans right on the court.

 

[Curufinwe]

There was nothing wrong with his form. He stood a guy up who had just received a hospital pass.

Incidental, unintentional head on head contact is never going to be penalized.

 

[Curufinwe]

The Avs must be licking their chops at the prospect of getting to go at Chris Stewart.

The Flyers have a roster spot and the cap space to call up a forward. They don't even need to put TK on IR.

 

[flyersnorth]

Maybe Braun shouldn't be passing to someone who is lined up for a hit.

Agreed, to a certain extent. Braun needs to be smarter, but I also see those kinds of dangerous passes in just about every hockey game. The difference is that 10 years ago a player would have been pummeled in open ice, whereas now players have 'evolved' to back off or not even look for those hits when players are vulnerable. It's a very tame game now.

Remember that Downie hit in preseason behind the Sens net? He almost launched that guy to another planet. Those kinds of hits (albeit way less violent) used to occur regularly, but again, they've decreased as the players have slowly changed the way they view hitting.

 

[Flyotes]

Came here to talk trash on Braun but it has been mentioned.

 

[Curufinwe]

Keep yer head up, Mikey. And quit rocking the stretcher.

 

[Rebels57]

There was nothing wrong with his form. He stood a guy up who had just received a hospital pass.

Incidental, unintentional head on head contact is never going to be penalized.

Agree to disagree. Usually when you hit someone properly (body turned sideways, shoulder first, elbow tucked) you don't end up with a giant gash on your eye brow. But I digress.

 

[Rebels57]

Agreed, to a certain extent. Braun needs to be smarter, but I also see those kinds of dangerous passes in just about every hockey game. The difference is that 10 years ago a player would have been pummeled in open ice, whereas now players have 'evolved' to back off or not even look for those hits when players are vulnerable. It's a very tame game now.

Remember that Downie hit in preseason behind the Sens net? He almost launched that guy to another planet. Those kinds of hits (albeit way less violent) used to occur regularly, but again, they've decreased as the players have slowly changed the way they view hitting.

That Downie hit was awful even for that time period. He was suspended like 20+ games.

 

[deadhead]

There are no Russian judges in ice hockey, so much for perfect form.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

That Downie hit was awful even for that time period. He was suspended like 20+ games.

The guy’s body was parallel to the ice before contact. That was an egregiously bad hit for any era.

That hit was before Richards’ on Booth & Cooke’s on Savard that got nothing at the time but birthed the head shot rules/crackdown.

 

[Rebels57]

The guy’s body was parallel to the ice before contact. That was an egregiously bad hit for any era.

If he did that today, he would get banned for a full year minimum.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

If he did that today, he would get banned for a full year minimum.

Who knows for sure but it’s probably to say to say it would at least be doubled to 40+ games.

 

[Johnk0728]

Myers isn't going to Colorado either due to back spasms acting up. So Stewart and Hagg both get to play. This board should be fun to read........

 

[Rich Nixon]

Myers isn't going to Colorado either due to back spasms acting up. So Stewart and Hagg both get to play. This board should be fun to read........

Dammit.