CanadianFlyer88
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Nice post and avy combination.I'd be eyeing Voracek as well.
Nice post and avy combination.I'd be eyeing Voracek as well.
They did not, but if you didnt see the opinions of fans from other clubs then I'd urge you to look there.
Some people put no stock into the opinions of fans. Frankly, I think a lot of the difference between the value of an opinion between a fan and say someone like Chuck, is that his daddy got him a start in the league.
The opinion of fans isnt the focal point of my post, so lets not make it that.
Nice post and avy combination.
The coaching staff, collectively, has been fired 8 times by 6 different NHL teams. Two of the coaches were fired on 3 separate occasions by one NHL club. I know this is a results oriented business where snap judgments are often the norm, but that doesn't exactly scream excellence.
There's a reason for that.
One coach.
I too wish Scoot Lootin was our 2nd line center.It was fun not having to worry about the cap for a couple seasons.
I'd be eyeing Voracek as well.
This is such a hilariously illogical argument.That's because I added Ghost.
They've dumped three of the fringe of the old core and it didn't help along with 3 coaches and a GM.
Sports is results based. They brought in a credible NHL coach with 2 trips to the finals under his belt. If this coach isn't getting results more players heads are going to roll. I don't know who I just expect it to happen.
JVR I guess would be an option, but he's less valuable and not part of the long-term fiasco.
They've fired how many coaches with the core of G, Coots, Jake, Ghost...
And changed GM's
Eventually the finger points in a different direction in sports like it or not.
What kind of waiting room
Vice principal. Middle school is rough, man.Pediatricians office.
JVR I guess would be an option, but he's less valuable and not part of the long-term fiasco.
I guess you live in a freaking bubble and don't watch sports outside of this city. This is what happens in sports after firing enough management eventually the finger points at the players who've been there a long time. It and free agency is why players rarely play their whole career in one city anymore. I've dealt with favorite players being the player shipped out. Sucks as a fan but it's business. They aren't firing Fletcher or AV for at least 3 seasons and I think they are done with the fringe of the roster except when kids are ready. So where else is the move happening?This is such a hilariously illogical argument.
If Fletcher thinks this way we’re completely ****ed, but even I have faith that he’s not that dumb.
This is such a hilariously illogical argument.
If Fletcher thinks this way we’re completely ****ed, but even I have faith that he’s not that dumb.
Wat.
Yeah, you're hired to be fired.
How many times was Lavi fired?
AV got to the finals twice, Trotz came up short with more talented teams until he finally had a Caps team good enough to overcome his post-season coaching (joking, kind of, but Trotz was labelled a "choker" until he won).
Getting fired is normal, getting hired multiple times is a mark of excellence.
I guess you live in a freaking bubble and don't watch sports outside of this city. This is what happens in sports after firing enough management eventually the finger points at the players who've been there a long time. It and free agency is why players rarely play their whole career in one city anymore. I've dealt with favorite players being the player shipped out. Sucks as a fan but it's business. They aren't firing Fletcher or AV for at least 3 seasons and I think they are done with the fringe of the roster except when kids are ready. So where else is the move happening?
As Magua said G and Coots are beyond reproach....
After years of futility, the Flyers once entered a new season with high expectations and a new GM. They started 3-6-1 and proceeded to trade away a hyper-talented forward (a RW, no less) who had put up 230 combined points in the previous two seasons. Of course, at the time, there was no way of knowing how good the players they got in return would end up being. So...was that the wrong decision?
It's not an uncommon thought process. There's no saying how this hypothetical scenario would play our in the long run, all I'm saying is...a major trade is a pretty likely scenario if we get more of the same for a couple months. It happens pretty often for teams in the boat that this one is currently in.
There's a M A S S I V E difference between "this regularly happens" and "this is what should happen".
Could it? Only if Fletcher is stupid.
Should it? Obviously not.
Anyone suggesting it makes sense to trade a core player simply for the sake of change should be horribly embarrassed.
“bUt ThEyVe BeEn HeRE a LoNg TiMe aNd HaVeNt wON”
But WHY haven’t they won. It clearly hasn’t been their fault. They’re the opposite... the reasons the team hasn’t bottomed out. The team around the core and the management/coaching is why they haven’t won.
Before making changes you have to accurately find what the problems are. If anyone points to those guys as the problems... yikes.
Everyone has a cost, but when the primary basis for a move is desperation, shake ups, and what you're being RID of.......
versus opportunity and what you're ACQUIRING.....
it almost invariably leads to poor decision making and taking a loss. Have we not seen this story countless times?
They aren't firing Fletcher or AV for at least 3 seasons
If you could pick up some decent odds on this, I could see it being worth a wager.
Vigneault signed for 5 years, but 3 years about a half season above the average NHL tenure. Hell, I'm not sure Fletcher gets that either.