2019-20 Roster Speculation Part 7

old kummelweck · Oct 1, 2019

Beerz said:
Please tell me these are just paper transactions

yeah. gotta be paper.

Zip15 · Oct 1, 2019

Alright, Vogl gets today's award:

Zman5778 · Oct 1, 2019

I'll wait for dotcomm's reply.........but I don't get why bring 3 contracts up (only 1 ELC) and send down 2 ELCs. I'm sure it's cap/LTIR related........but I don't get it.... :laugh:

Reddawg · Oct 1, 2019

Zman5778 said:
Olofsson and Joker were on the roster that RK himself said was going to Pittsburgh.

I'm guessing this is a paper transaction, probably cap related. @dotcommunism thoughts?

I'm trying to figure it out, but it doesn't make sense to me. Adding Lazar, Dea and Pilut adds $2.325m while placing Olofsson and Jokiharju in Rochester only removes $1.6925m, so it's a net add of $632,500 to the bottom line and keeps us over the cap.

Zman5778 · Oct 1, 2019

Reddawg said:
I'm trying to figure it out, but it doesn't make sense to me. Adding Lazar, Dea and Pilut adds $2.325m while placing Olofsson and Jokiharju in Rochester only removes $1.6925m, so it's a net add of $632,500 to the bottom line and keeps us over the cap.

Possibly bonus related? Possibly a way to somehow maximize IR space? *shrug*

Zip15 · Oct 1, 2019

Botts has finally found his sweet spot: paper transactions!

Reddawg · Oct 1, 2019

Zman5778 said:
Possibly bonus related? Possibly a way to somehow maximize IR space? *shrug*

Total max bonus for Jokiharju and Olofsson comes out to $557,500, Pilut has a max bonus of $425,000 which almost washes that out. I dunno, there's something I'm missing but I don't know what it is.

If it was bonus related, shipping Mitts to Rochester on paper (or in reality) would save $850k. Hell, Dahlin's max bonus is almost $3 million...and he can technically be assigned to Rochester.

Reddawg · Oct 1, 2019

Is this a way for guys to get an NHL paycheck for being on the roster for the start of the season and/or game day? That's the only thing I can think of, nothing about cap ramifications makes any sense to me. Or maybe they're taking another shot at waiving Lazar and Dea to see if someone will grab them. Or there's a trade coming. Or locusts.

old kummelweck · Oct 1, 2019

I'm guessing Joker and Olofsson needs to be on the Roch roster at the beginning of their season for some reason, and to balance that out, 2 of the three names brought back up cover the +/- roster number. Pilut must be for another reason.

t800rad · Oct 1, 2019

Alright I guess I'm stupid. Someone explain this in layman's terms?

WeDislikeEich · Oct 1, 2019

Zman5778 said:
I'll wait for dotcomm's reply.........but I don't get why bring 3 contracts up (only 1 ELC) and send down 2 ELCs. I'm sure it's cap/LTIR related........but I don't get it....

My only guess is something to do with being tied into maximizing their LTIR space or something?

I am purely guessing though.

Buffaloed · Oct 1, 2019

Botterill is a wizard!

Buffaloed · Oct 1, 2019

t800rad said:
Alright I guess I'm stupid. Someone explain this in layman's terms?

When a player is placed on LTIR, their cap hit remains on the teams cap payroll and it continues to count as it always did. It also does not provide the club with additional cap-space savings that can be banked for future use while the team operates above the salary cap. Instead, LTIR provides relief if the club's averaged club salary, or payroll, begins to exceed the upper limit. The amount of relief that the club receives is calculated on the day the player is placed on LTIR. There are three equations that are used to determine the LTIR relief, the first, the basic equation, can be used during the season and during the off-season. The second, the training-camp equation, can be used on the final day of the off-season in preparation for the first day of the season. The third formula is used when the team already has a player on LTIR.
LTIR FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Hasekperreault23 · Oct 1, 2019

Push Dr Tracksuit said:
That and Sobotka has looked better this preseason then at any other point as a sabre.

Hasekperreault23 · Oct 1, 2019

Push Dr Tracksuit said:
That and Sobotka has looked better this preseason then at any other point as a sabre

Yes heard he makes good coffee for the coaching staff and cleans up dressing room well lol

hizzoner · Oct 1, 2019

I understand real numbers spelled out. The rest is like trying to catch smoke in my hand. What are the real dollars? No vision statements. No generalities. No Christmas toy assembly instructions....

joshjull · Oct 1, 2019

Zman5778 said:
Olofsson and Joker were on the roster that RK himself said was going to Pittsburgh.

I'm guessing this is a paper transaction, probably cap related. @dotcommunism thoughts?

Gabrielor · Oct 1, 2019

I SERIOUSLY can't believe that, not only are we starting the season in 2 days, but that VLADIMIR SOBOTKA IS ON OUR SECOND LINE

joshjull · Oct 1, 2019

Gabrielor said:
I SERIOUSLY can't believe that, not only are we starting the season in 2 days, but that VLADIMIR SOBOTKA IS ON OUR SECOND LINE

I’m excited too!

jc17 · Oct 1, 2019

Buffaloed said:
When a player is placed on LTIR, their cap hit remains on the teams cap payroll and it continues to count as it always did. It also does not provide the club with additional cap-space savings that can be banked for future use while the team operates above the salary cap. Instead, LTIR provides relief if the club's averaged club salary, or payroll, begins to exceed the upper limit. The amount of relief that the club receives is calculated on the day the player is placed on LTIR. There are three equations that are used to determine the LTIR relief, the first, the basic equation, can be used during the season and during the off-season. The second, the training-camp equation, can be used on the final day of the off-season in preparation for the first day of the season. The third formula is used when the team already has a player on LTIR.
LTIR FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Alright I guess I'm stupid. Someone explain this in layman's terms?