Prospect Info: 2019-20 Oilers Prospect Thread

[nabob]

If you were he wouldn't have said anything.

I normally just report posts like those but was feeling generous. Let's keep it civil and just move on.

Nah he’s got a vendetta against me because of how his “scouting” of Broberg and Yamamoto has been exposed as a joke.

 

[aspin3]

Looks like Lavoie has been traded in the QMJHL. Not sure for who yet. Strange that the QMJHL site does not have anything.

Raphaël Lavoie at eliteprospects.com

 

[aspin3]

Looks like Lavoie has been traded in the QMJHL. Not sure for who yet. Strange that the QMJHL site does not have anything.

Raphaël Lavoie at eliteprospects.com

LE MÉDAILLÉ D’OR RAPHAËL LAVOIE EST UN NOUVEAU SAGUENÉENS – Chicoutimi, Sagueneens

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

It seems Chicoutimi acquired Lavoie as well as Dawson Mercer.

 

[Ctrain2k]

It seems Chicoutimi acquired Lavoie as well as Dawson Mercer.

Moncton got Jared Mcissac today and Benoit Olivier Groulx over the break, that’s gonna be crazy.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Lavoie will be joining the team with the 2nd best record in the Q. His first game with the Sagueneens is against his former team, the Mooseheads.

 

[LaGu]

Lavoie will be joining the team with the 2nd best record in the Q. His first game with the Sagueneens is against his former team, the Mooseheads.

For someone knowing zero or less about qmjhl, I assume this is a good move(?). How's the competition on his new team, will play top 6?

 

[Senor Catface]

Looks like Lavoie has been traded in the QMJHL. Not sure for who yet. Strange that the QMJHL site does not have anything.

Raphaël Lavoie at eliteprospects.com

Yeah, thank god. Halifax traded away all their top older guys away in the last couple weeks so good to see him get a shot with a new squad as well.

 

[McDNicks17]

Chicoutimi is going to be stacked.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Tis the season for top 50 prospects outside of the nhl

Slightly concerned by the lack of oiler prospects on many of the lists

 

[North]

Tis the season for top 50 prospects outside of the nhl

Slightly concerned by the lack of oiler prospects on many of the lists

Why? The lists are subjective.

 

[Aerchon]

Tis the season for top 50 prospects outside of the nhl

Slightly concerned by the lack of oiler prospects on many of the lists

I must admit I'm a little concerned about our prospects in general. But only indirectly due to lists. Lists are very subjective and the ones coming out right now are valued heavily by the WJC I imagine.

All fans over rate their teams prospects. We can be especially bad on this board. The hype Jones and Samourukov have received for example has been excessive.

Im guilty of guys like Maxismov, Safin, and Puljujärvi.

I was expecting Bakersfield to be dominate this year. Bouchard to destroy the AHL. A good showing at the WJC with Lavieo and Broberg would have been nice.

I was expecting the Oilers to suck and our prospects to excell. Instead our prospects have underperformed across the board and our team is doing considerably better than most predicted.

I was fully expecting at least a couple forwards to be able to graduate in the next 3 years and be impact players for us. At this exact point I expect zero. We still have a very good group of defenders but no one at the moment looking like a perfect elite top pairing type.

But development is not linear so while there isn't a real reason to be excited there also isn't a real reason to be overly pessimistic either.

 

[McDNicks17]

I must admit I'm a little concerned about our prospects in general. But only indirectly due to lists. Lists are very subjective and the ones coming out right now are valued heavily by the WJC I imagine.

All fans over rate their teams prospects. We can be especially bad on this board. The hype Jones and Samourukov have received for example has been excessive.

Im guilty of guys like Maxismov, Safin, and Puljujärvi.

I was expecting Bakersfield to be dominate this year. Bouchard to destroy the AHL. A good showing at the WJC with Lavieo and Broberg would have been nice.

I was expecting the Oilers to suck and our prospects to excell. Instead our prospects have underperformed across the board and our team is doing considerably better than most predicted.

I was fully expecting at least a couple forwards to be able to graduate in the next 3 years and be impact players for us. At this exact point I expect zero. We still have a very good group of defenders but no one at the moment looking like a perfect elite top pairing type.

But development is not linear so while there isn't a real reason to be excited there also isn't a real reason to be overly pessimistic either.

AHL teams made mostly of prospects/rookies rarely dominate the league.


As for Bouchard, he may not be dominating, but he's putting up really good numbers on a low scoring team.

Only 32 U21 defensemen have had a higher points-per-game over 30+ games going back to 09/10. There's a fairly small margin there too. He'd be top 20 if he had two more points, for example.

That list includes guys like Carlson, Faulk, Theodore, Subban, Voynov, McNabb, Barrie, Dunn, DeAngelo, Savard, Ristolainen, Josi, Larsson, Scandella, etc.

 

[Aerchon]

AHL teams made mostly of prospects/rookies rarely dominate the league.


As for Bouchard, he may not be dominating, but he's putting up really good numbers on a low scoring team.

Only 32 U21 defensemen have had a higher points-per-game over 30+ games going back to 09/10. There's a fairly small margin there too. He'd be top 20 if he had two more points, for example.

That list includes guys like Carlson, Faulk, Theodore, Subban, Voynov, McNabb, Barrie, Dunn, DeAngelo, Savard, Ristolainen, Josi, Larsson, Scandella, etc.

I agree. All good points.

I still think Bouchard will be great but I set my expectations too high.

 

[ImmuneEH]

I'm only concerned about prospects so far as we have a pipeline that can fill holes in our roster.

Some of these are holes that will open up soon (within the next couple seasons).
Holes: 3C, Starter, top 6 W, middle 6 W, top 4 RD.

3C - McLeod has the size, speed, skill, and 2-way ability. Just needs to continue maturing into the pro game. Rasanen is having a good year in the NCAA, there might be a possible solution there.
Middle 6 W - Benson is the primary candidate for me. Good 2-way game, good on the boards, great vision/passing, and plays with an edge.
Top 6 W - You hope that one of Yamamoto, Lavoie, Maksimov, or Benson hit.
Top 4RD - If Larsson doesn't get an extension, we have Bouchard & Persson as players that could step in when his contract expires.
Starter - Idk about you guys, but it'd be nice to have a homegrown goalie that remains with the franchise for a while (goalies are expensive). Could any of Starrett, Skinner, Wells, Rodrigue, or Konovalov make it?

It's pretty crucial we sign Nuge, we don't have anyone that projects to be a 2C.

I'd really like to see Holland put an emphasis on forwards in the upcoming draft.

 

[Aerchon]

I'm only concerned about prospects so far as we have a pipeline that can fill holes in our roster.

Some of these are holes that will open up soon (within the next couple seasons).
Holes: 3C, Starter, top 6 W, middle 6 W, top 4 RD.

3C - McLeod has the size, speed, skill, and 2-way ability. Just needs to continue maturing into the pro game. Rasanen is having a good year in the NCAA, there might be a possible solution there.
Middle 6 W - Benson is the primary candidate for me. Good 2-way game, good on the boards, great vision/passing, and plays with an edge.
Top 6 W - You hope that one of Yamamoto, Lavoie, Maksimov, or Benson hit.
Top 4RD - If Larsson doesn't get an extension, we have Bouchard & Persson as players that could step in when his contract expires.
Starter - Idk about you guys, but it'd be nice to have a homegrown goalie that remains with the franchise for a while (goalies are expensive). Could any of Starrett, Skinner, Wells, Rodrigue, or Konovalov make it?

It's pretty crucial we sign Nuge, we don't have anyone that projects to be a 2C.

I'd really like to see Holland put an emphasis on forwards in the upcoming draft.

Great post. I agree with all of it in theory...

Not to be a negative Nelly but as it stands right now I think the only "likely" hole to be filled internally is the top 4 RD. Between Persson and Bouchard that's at least a solid bet.

The rest, while certainly possible, are just not likely... yet. Next year, with how non linear prospects progress, we could be flush with potential nhlers.

I also have to emphasize how important resigning Nuge is. It's extremely difficult to imagine filled the hole he will leave behind internally or externally. He has his warts but his overall game is so hard to replace.

 

[Senor Catface]

Tonight will be Lavoie's first game with the new team. Coincidentally, against his old team.

 

[Ctrain2k]

Tonight will be Lavoie's first game with the new team. Coincidentally, against his old team.

Lavoie already scored haha.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Lavoie already scored haha.

Ended up with 1 goal, 1 point and was even in a 8-3 win.

 

[Panda Bear]

Klefbom looked worse in the AHL than in the NHL because he's not a scrambler.

Bouchard will be the same for the same reason.

 

[Aerchon]

Klefbom looked worse in the AHL than in the NHL because he's not a scrambler.

Bouchard will be the same for the same reason.

Legitimately excited for this player. Was shocked we got him. Digging deep into his junior career he absolutely is a rare talent.

Very similar excitement I had for Draisaitl after digging into his junior play.

Bouchard needs Draisaitls skating coach and he potentially "could" end up the best defenseman in an extremly great draft for defensemen.

 

[Ctrain2k]

Broberg only played 8:46 in his last game, first time this season he’s played under 10:00.

 

[Aerchon]

Broberg only played 8:46 in his last game, first time this season he’s played under 10:00.

He was not given opportunity at the WJC. However what little opportunity he did have he was nothing special.

Hopefully he gets over this. Might be sulking. Might just be getting the ice time his meager skill deserves.

I think the group that would have preferred Zegras have a legitimate beef with this pick.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Broberg only played 8:46 in his last game, first time this season he’s played under 10:00.

Any idea if he may have gotten injured? I'm hoping that he comes over and works with Dave Manson next season.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Legitimately excited for this player. Was shocked we got him. Digging deep into his junior career he absolutely is a rare talent.

Very similar excitement I had for Draisaitl after digging into his junior play.

Bouchard needs Draisaitls skating coach and he potentially "could" end up the best defenseman in an extremly great draft for defensemen.

I'd love for you to be right. But ... Rasmus Dahlin ... Quinn Hughes is way, way better than I imagined.

I really liked Noah Dobson in that draft. He could be a first pairing d-man, though maybe more two-way than Bouchard.

Sounds like Bouchard is having a solid first pro year in Bakersfield. The Oil desperately need a high end, high hockey IQ offensive defenseman to run the power play. Here's hoping he gets there!