Prospect Info: 2019-20 Oilers Prospect Thread

[CycloneSweep]

Wonder how Broberg is doing. Not getting many points so the stats aren't really telling me much

 

[ImmuneEH]

Wonder how Broberg is doing. Not getting many points so the stats aren't really telling me much

Anywhere we can view the TOI? As long as he's getting a good amount of minutes I'm happy with that.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Anywhere we can view the TOI? As long as he's getting a good amount of minutes I'm happy with that.

14:34 average a game, lowest on the team for regular defensemen.

 

[Skolman]

Konovalov gets another shutout.

His numbers haven't been great this year, especially compared to last season.

Anyone know if he is really struggling, or is his team bad this season?

 

[McFlyingV]

His numbers haven't been great this year, especially compared to last season.

Anyone know if he is really struggling, or is his team bad this season?

He had an awful couple games to start the season letting in a lot of goals and it's skewing his stats. Give it some time to normalize and we'll get a clearer picture. He's up to .907 after tonight's shutout and at one point he was at like .850.

 

[Skolman]

He had an awful couple games to start the season letting in a lot of goals and it's skewing his stats. Give it some time to normalize and we'll get a clearer picture. He's up to .907 after tonight's shutout and at one point he was at like .850.

Right on, thanks.

That makes sense.

 

[McFlyingV]

Right on, thanks.

That makes sense.

To expand a little more. In his first 3 games he allowed 12 goals on 78 shots (.846) and in his last 7 games he's allowed 11 goals on 170 shots (.935)

 

[LaGu]

14:34 average a game, lowest on the team for regular defensemen.

He's getting used to SHL competition and a new team. His ice time goes up and down a lot, not sure but it could have something to do with special teams.

Anyhow, I wouldn't worry. For an 18 year old it can be tough just to stick in the SHL, stats wise it looks decent to me with a couple of assists in 9 GP and around 15 mins of ice time per game.

 

[Aerchon]

He's getting used to SHL competition and a new team. His ice time goes up and down a lot, not sure but it could have something to do with special teams.

Anyhow, I wouldn't worry. For an 18 year old it can be tough just to stick in the SHL, stats wise it looks decent to me with a couple of assists in 9 GP and around 15 mins of ice time per game.

Since I'm rightfully getting beat up for my anti Holland rhetoric I think it's only fair to point out that while Broberg is playing in a men's league at just 18... for where we drafted him and who we could have drafted... Broberg currently seems like the reach he was.

Not going to beat this to death because it's very very early but he obviously isn't currently doing so well. At 14 minutes a night he might be better off in North America getting more minutes against lesser competition.

 

[oilynutz]

Since I'm rightfully getting beat up for my anti Holland rhetoric I think it's only fair to point out that while Broberg is playing in a men's league at just 18... for where we drafted him and who we could have drafted... Broberg currently seems like the reach he was.

Not going to beat this to death because it's very very early but he obviously isn't currently doing so well. At 14 minutes a night he might be better off in North America getting more minutes against lesser competition.

Why not give a prospect more then 9 games before declaring him a reach? He has already matched klefboms draft+1 production. We have Bear, Lagesson, Bouchard, Jones and Samorukov ahead of him. He is in absolutely zero rush to make the NHL. Let him marinate a couple years in Sweden before we declare him anything.

 

[Aerchon]

Why not give a prospect more then 9 games before declaring him a reach? He has already matched klefboms draft+1 production. We have Bear, Lagesson, Bouchard, Jones and Samorukov ahead of him. He is in absolutely zero rush to make the NHL. Let him marinate a couple years in Sweden before we declare him anything.

Meh. My ire is fading for this pick but it WAS a reach at the time. It will be a reach until he proves otherwise.

But I agree he has tons of time and there is no rush.

Still burns me up a bit thinking that if Nuge walks after his contract Zegras potentially could have been there to take his spot. Where as barring something strange we won't "need" Broberg at all in the foreseeable future. I don't see the value in picking another left shooting D with our weakness in forward prospects as it is period.

 

[LaGu]

Since I'm rightfully getting beat up for my anti Holland rhetoric I think it's only fair to point out that while Broberg is playing in a men's league at just 18... for where we drafted him and who we could have drafted... Broberg currently seems like the reach he was.

Not going to beat this to death because it's very very early but he obviously isn't currently doing so well. At 14 minutes a night he might be better off in North America getting more minutes against lesser competition.

I get you're sentiment in general, but no he does not.
It is as inconclusive as it gets and without a world of context you cannot say anything about how he is doing.
Hey, he is scoring better than Lidstrom at the same age (and Klingberg and Karlsson), how about that . On the other hand he is scoring less than Adam Larsson... So there is that. He is scoring better than Brodin or Klefbom at the same age, and OEL was not even in the league at 18. It really means nothing right now and I don't think this is the straw you should be grabbing onto right now.

When the season is at least half-way done and we've seen him playing at the U20s then we can talk, and maybe you'll be right at that point (even though the road is much longer than half a season), but right now ice time and points say very little. He is getting used to a higher level of competition and learning a system. His progress curve over the course of the year will be much more telling than his 9 first games played.

 

[Canovin]

I get you're sentiment in general, but no he does not.
It is as inconclusive as it gets and without a world of context you cannot say anything about how he is doing.
Hey, he is scoring better than Lidstrom at the same age (and Klingberg and Karlsson), how about that . On the other hand he is scoring less than Adam Larsson... So there is that. He is scoring better than Brodin or Klefbom at the same age, and OEL was not even in the league at 18. It really means nothing right now and I don't think this is the straw you should be grabbing onto right now.

When the season is at least half-way done and we've seen him playing at the U20s then we can talk, and maybe you'll be right at that point (even though the road is much longer than half a season), but right now ice time and points say very little. He is getting used to a higher level of competition and learning a system. His progress curve over the course of the year will be much more telling than his 9 first games played.

Broberg comes off as a very likeable kid. You look at him, you just want him to succeed. With that being said, I think he was a reach considering who was on board. Zegras would have made more sense just because of positional need like Aerchon pointed out and his potential is much higher than Broberg. You can't teach Zegras' vision and hockey sense

 

[LaGu]

Broberg comes off as a very likeable kid. You look at him, you just want him to succeed. With that being said, I think he was a reach considering who was on board. Zegras would have made more sense just because of positional need like Aerchon pointed out and his potential is much higher than Broberg. You can't teach Zegras' vision and hockey sense

That's very possible, I am not entering that debate(Zegras vs Broberg). Others have argued with much more info than I have about this so I am not weighing in on that. I do want to point out though that his 9 games played so far are not an indication of anything really. He is looking good for an 18 year old in the SHL, so his play right now is definitely not basis for arguing that he is not living up to expectations. That can (and will) be discussed in 4 months or better at the end of the season.

 

[oilynutz]

Meh. My ire is fading for this pick but it WAS a reach at the time. It will be a reach until he proves otherwise.

But I agree he has tons of time and there is no rush.

Still burns me up a bit thinking that if Nuge walks after his contract Zegras potentially could have been there to take his spot. Where as barring something strange we won't "need" Broberg at all in the foreseeable future. I don't see the value in picking another left shooting D with our weakness in forward prospects as it is period.

I was hoping for a forward as well, either Boldy or Caulfield. After doing a little research on Broberg and getting Lavoie in the 2nd it's tough to complain.

 

[nabob]

Meh. My ire is fading for this pick but it WAS a reach at the time. It will be a reach until he proves otherwise.

But I agree he has tons of time and there is no rush.

Still burns me up a bit thinking that if Nuge walks after his contract Zegras potentially could have been there to take his spot. Where as barring something strange we won't "need" Broberg at all in the foreseeable future. I don't see the value in picking another left shooting D with our weakness in forward prospects as it is period.

yeah well that’s just like your opinion man.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Broberg will be fine. He won't be a player who is ready quick and is obviously a project before he is NHL ready but he will be good. Was he the right pick? We won't know for a few years

 

[LaGu]

I'll add to what I said before, without considering other prospects I like this pick at 8 OA. Of course you never know, Pulju, Yakupov, etc etc.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I'll add to what I said before, without considering other prospects I like this pick at 8 OA. Of course you never know, Pulju, Yakupov, etc etc.

We just have to wait and see. This pick has a large chance of ending up as a massive reach or a clever one. It'll be like 6-7 years before we know for sure. I think he probably plays this year and next year in Sweden and then 2-3 in the AHL before breaking in

 

[dem]

We just have to wait and see. This pick has a large chance of ending up as a massive reach or a clever one. It'll be like 6-7 years before we know for sure. I think he probably plays this year and next year in Sweden and then 2-3 in the AHL before breaking in

Klefbom made his debut in draft +3

I wouldn't underestimate this kid. At the same age he is definitely better.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

We just have to wait and see. This pick has a large chance of ending up as a massive reach or a clever one. It'll be like 6-7 years before we know for sure. I think he probably plays this year and next year in Sweden and then 2-3 in the AHL before breaking in

I wouldn’t be surprised if he was in the AHL next year.

lagesson and Jones are gonna be no longer waiver exempt

 

[Stud Muffin]

We just have to wait and see. This pick has a large chance of ending up as a massive reach or a clever one. It'll be like 6-7 years before we know for sure. I think he probably plays this year and next year in Sweden and then 2-3 in the AHL before breaking in

2-3 years in the AHL that’s nuts which top player has ever done that ever. This year and next in Sweden then one year AHL and if he’s not ready by then then he probably never will be.

 

[Skolman]

2-3 years in the AHL that’s nuts which top player has ever done that ever. This year and next in Sweden then one year AHL and if he’s not ready by then then he probably never will be.

If a 21 yr old defenseman isn't ready for the NHL, he probably never will be......?

Come on dude..

Broberg is extremely raw, he could need more time.

 

[Stud Muffin]

If a 21 yr old defenseman isn't ready for the NHL, he probably never will be......?

Come on dude..

Broberg is extremely raw, he could need more time.

There isn’t any prospect that is so raw that they need 6-7 years in the minors

 

[Skolman]

There isn’t any prospect that is so raw that they need 6-7 years in the minors

I never said that.

But to suggest that if he isn't ready by the time he's 21, he probably never will be? That's pretty ridiculous, and quite foolish.