2019-20 New Goalie Equipment/Mask Sightings

[Hockeyfan2390]

On average, how much do you think goalies pay Dave Art for one of his “masterpieces?”

My guess would they probably run for about $1K per.

 

[IamNotADancer]

My guess would they probably run for about $1K per.

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Tops starts at 1.4k, now with DaveArt it can go either way. He either charges a premium because for whatever reason modern goalies decided to lose any semblance of taste and made this guy a premium provider, or he gives goalies a discount in exchange for exposure that comes with a prominent goalie.
I don't see NHL goalies hurting for money so I'm willing to bet Dave charges at least 2k for a mask job.

 

[Pens x]

Pricing — HEADSTRONGGRAFX LLC.

Tops starts at 1.4k, now with DaveArt it can go either way. He either charges a premium because for whatever reason modern goalies decided to lose any semblance of taste and made this guy a premium provider, or he gives goalies a discount in exchange for exposure that comes with a prominent goalie.
I don't see NHL goalies hurting for money so I'm willing to bet Dave charges at least 2k for a mask job.

Thank you.

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

 

[The Blunder Years]

DaveArt’s descriptions read like he’s trying to write erotica in the 21st century.

 

[kingsholygrail]

DaveArt’s descriptions read like he’s trying to write erotica in the 21st century.

It's working.

 

[Boy Hedican]

Yuck!!! What the hell is going on here?!?

 

[Oddbob]

There is a lot going on there!

 

[Asheville]

If this isn't a middle finger to his critics, nothing is.

 

[Del Preston]

If this isn't a middle finger to his critics, nothing is.

Middle Finger FX

 

[nhlfan9191]

This sums up why people hate daveart. Way to much going on.

 

[RobBrown4PM]

I'm pretty sure Daveart emulates the Ronald D. Moore school of coming up with new ideas.

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

 

[Oddbob]

That is the best one so far this year, I really like this one.

 

[El Travo]

It's almost as if DaveArt puts on the masks what the goalie requests or something.

 

[SUBdrewgANS]

It's almost as if DaveArt puts on the masks what the goalie requests or something.

I would bet a lot don't really care and give him "creative license"
If they do tell him what they want, it's his job as a designer to advise them to edit down, he seems like a "Yes man" which is the worst thing you can be in design.
I bet if they gave the same creative idea to a better mask designer than DaveArt, the design would be a lot more simpler.

As a Graphic Designer myself, these masks are the epitome of a client asking for way too much in the design, I am constantly advising my clients to edit down and make it simpler. Sometimes I lose that battle and at the end of the day they are the paying client, and their design ends up looking like a cluttered mess. Those are the pieces that do NOT go in my portfolio.
Every piece in DaveArt's portfolio collection is a cluttered mess with a few exceptions.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

I’m glad Ed Belfour finally made his eagle look more real

 

[El Travo]

I would bet a lot don't really care and give him "creative license"
If they do tell him what they want, it's his job as a designer to advise them to edit down, he seems like a "Yes man" which is the worst thing you can be in design.
I bet if they gave the same creative idea to a better mask designer than DaveArt, the design would be a lot more simpler.

As a Graphic Designer myself, these masks are the epitome of a client asking for way too much in the design, I am constantly advising my clients to edit down and make it simpler. Sometimes I lose that battle and at the end of the day they are the paying client, and their design ends up looking like a cluttered mess. Those are the pieces that do NOT go in my portfolio.
Every piece in DaveArt's portfolio collection is a cluttered mess with a few exceptions.

They get new masks every year so it's not like they're stuck with them for a career and I'm willing to bet that's why he doesn't get them to tone it down. If the client likes it then that's all that matters because they're the one's paying. I doubt he gives a crap about what hockey forum posters say.

 

[Atas2000]

It's working.

Because, you know, goalies are mostly everage at everything but stopping pucks. And as athletes often below average at education(which also educates taste).

It's working for the same reason all those brainless movies are "working".

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

 

[FerrisRox]

I would bet a lot don't really care and give him "creative license"

You would lose that bet. I worked on a segment on goalie masks in the NHL a few years back, and I assure you, the vast majority of goaltenders are very specific about what they want on their masks.

If they do tell him what they want, it's his job as a designer to advise them to edit down, he seems like a "Yes man" which is the worst thing you can be in design.

The worst thing he can do is give the client that hired him what they requested? You have a lot to learn about how things work. They are not simply hiring a designer, they are hiring someone to put the things they want on their goalie mask. What people here continue to misunderstand is that goaltenders are having a piece of their equipment painted to help reflect their personality and, in many cases, include things they consider to be good luck. They do not care if it "looks good on television." They do not care if "looks good from far away." They do not care if it's "good design." They simply want something that has all the elements that they want and they want something that *they* think looks cool. Period.

I bet if they gave the same creative idea to a better mask designer than DaveArt, the design would be a lot more simpler.

That would be a stupid bet. If it was a lot simpler, it wouldn't have all the things that the goaltenders had requested. If there was someone out there that was doing a better job than Dave was of giving the goaltenders what they wanted then that person would be getting all the work that Dave is getting. The reason Dave is does 85 percent of the goalie masks in the NHL is because he's wildly successful because his clients love his work and go back to him time and time again.

As a Graphic Designer myself, these masks are the epitome of a client asking for way too much in the design, I am constantly advising my clients to edit down and make it simpler. Sometimes I lose that battle and at the end of the day they are the paying client, and their design ends up looking like a cluttered mess. Those are the pieces that do NOT go in my portfolio.
Every piece in DaveArt's portfolio collection is a cluttered mess with a few exceptions.

These clients are not having a logo designed for the purposes of selling a business or an advertisement or a website. These are personal designs that are designed, primarily, for *one person* to enjoy. The clients for Dave couldn't care less if if the result is cluttered. They couldn't care less if multiple type faces are used. They couldn't care less about negative space. They couldn't care less about the flow of the elements that are used. They couldn't care less about the color wheel. They couldn't care less about good taste or good design. They simply want a mask that reflects the very things and theme that they asked for because the mask is for them.

People continue to not understand this and heap scorn on Dave for doing what his clients ask for and are endlessly suggesting how he should change what he's doing despite his runaway success and growing dominance in the market. Get a clue.

 

[Butch 19]

There is a lot going on there!

What a mess!

From 15 ft away, it's just a blob. And it will look much worse on tv

 

[featherhawk]

can't wait to see Lehners new hawks mask....

 

[Patty Ice]

Football helmets on a hockey mask? Very lame.

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

Antti Niemi rocking the Ronald McDonald look for Jokerit Helsinki.