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Unprecedented Dramatic Overpayments
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Why do players his age on other teams with his numbers accept such contracts?I wouldn't accept either of those deals either if I were him.
Why do players his age on other teams with his numbers accept such contracts?I wouldn't accept either of those deals either if I were him.
So another leaf player who thinks he deserves more than league-wide comparables?
I think maybe Dubas has to go.We can't and we are screwed. going to have some dark offseasons going forward. hope u all enjoy seeing any player coming off their ELC leaving for other teams. I know I will hate it.
I love Matthews but I think I'd rather JT/Marner and money to actually build a team.
Shanny should have kept Lou around for the big signings. I dont have much faith in Dubas anymore. Nylander signing was a mistake. we were playing so good before he came back. since then we have been meh. should have traded for a RHD with Nylander. I dunno I just dont really like Nylander much after his holdout.I think maybe Dubas has to go.
That way when other leaf players try saying "If Nylander and Matthews got x for y production, this is what I want", the new gm can just reply "the old gm got fired for those contracts. You're not getting higher than league-wide comparables with ME."
What are his comparables?Why do players his age on other teams with his numbers accept such contracts?
I had just posted 2 a few posts prior. One was from a player of the same age, who currently has 23 goals and 40 points, and signed for 2.5x3 last month.What are his comparables?
Vatrano signed for 3 years @ 2.53. That's a better contract than 4 years @ 2.5.I had just posted 2 a few posts prior. One was from a player of the same age, who currently has 23 goals and 40 points, and signed for 2.5x3 last month.
Kase proving himself a year younger means he gets more money, not less. Kase is a fair comparable.Vatrano signed for 3 years @ 2.53. That's a better contract than 4 years @ 2.5.
Kase signed for 3 years @ 2.6. That's a better contract than 4 years @ 2.5. Kase's contract also starts a year earlier (matters because of inflation) plus he's a year younger to boot.
If AJ was indeed offered 4x2.5, that's not far from the two examples you gave, but it's not quite as good as them either.
I'm fine with either of their contracts, I just think neither 2x2.1 or 4x2.5 are as good as them.Kase proving himself a year younger means he gets more money, not less. Kase is a fair comparable.
That being said, I'm fine with the Votrano contract for Johnsson. It's the closest comparable. Even a penny more is Dubas overpaying, yet again.
I look around the league and see so many players under good contracts. Yet with the leafs, it seems to be the negotiation starts at market value, and can only go up from there. I was hoping Dubas would be able to get some of these players at a good deal. Apparently not.I'm fine with either of their contracts, I just think neither 2x2.1 or 4x2.5 are as good as them.
This is coming out late in media like usual. Trust me on this one Johnsson and Z are getting traded in summer to free up CAP space. The only guy who likes Z is Babs. Because Babs recruited him. It is real simple. Don't overthink it. Shanny has his limits. The only thing that could change things is if Babs pulls a miracle and takes this team to ECF. If he does then he will get more slack on this decision.I look around the league and see so many players under good contracts. Yet with the leafs, it seems to be the negotiation starts at market value, and can only go up from there. I was hoping Dubas would be able to get some of these players at a good deal. Apparently not.
Tell me... if Johnsson scored 60 points last year, and was on a 80 point pace this year, how much do you think Dubas would give him over 5 years? Just an estimate. (Keep in mind those numbers are far better than Nylanders).
Lastly the CBA needs a clause that allows every team 1 mistake per year. So when a bad mistake is made teams are not saddled for 5-8 years. There should be 1 buyout a year where a team can payout a player and there is nothing counted against the CAP.
It’s going to be tight there’s no question about it. I’ve messed around on cap friendly a few times to see what’s realistic.
Brown & Zaitsev have to go for sure at the very least, either for picks or low contracts. Brown should be doable but Zaitsev is concerning. I just picked St. Louis who have 2 UFA Dmen.
The Marner, Kapanen & Johnsson contracts are close to what I’d expect.
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We can't and we are screwed. going to have some dark offseasons going forward. hope u all enjoy seeing any player coming off their ELC leaving for other teams. I know I will hate it.
I love Matthews but I think I'd rather JT/Marner and money to actually build a team.
Well I think you want GM's to take a risk here and there.
Again my point is Carolina and Zona should not have NHL teams today. I realize they would be impacted but frankly I don't give a flying fiddle about them. If they make everything about appeasing the weak then as a society you get weak. Same holds true in NHL. You get weaker and weaker overall hockey.
If the 2 year deal was 2.5 AAV he should take it. Four years at 2.5 is an insult.Yesterday (think it was on Leaf lunch) heard Leafs were pissed that AJ's agent turned down 2x2.1 and 4x2.5 bridge deals and prefers to wait until the offseason.
Which of the two offers ToneDog cited were for 2.5 x 3?I had just posted 2 a few posts prior. One was from a player of the same age, who currently has 23 goals and 40 points, and signed for 2.5x3 last month.