Salary Cap: 2019-20 How Can the Leafs Stay Under The Cap?

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  1. MyBudJT

    MyBudJT Formerly WILDLIFEGUY

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    To CAR:
    Kapanen
    Brown
    +?

    To TOR:
    Pesce
    +?

    To VAN:
    Zaitsev

    To TOR
    3rd round pick

    Cap goes up to 83M

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  2. sessiroth

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    We are on the same page. There's no way he should get a matching contract to Matthews
     
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    Does major-league baseball not have one as well just saying
     
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    Pookie It was a pleasure doing business with you

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    They don’t have a cap
     
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    We'll definitely fit under the cap next year.
    Gardiner, Zaitsev and/or Brown will be the victims if necessary.


    However.

    I'd honestly have no issues if Dubas traded Matthews, Marner & Nylander before July 1st.

    (preparing for attack)

    1. The return would be immense (equivalent to the value of 10-12 mid-1st round picks).
    2. We can target big UFA's (Panarin, Stone, Duchene, Hayes, Skinner Karlsson, Myers, etc).
    3. Dubas would send a strong message for future RFA negotiations.

    - Three big UFA's would keep us very competitive now (likely for less than $30 million).
    - A massive surplus of 1st rounders and AAA prospects would open a 10+ year window.
     
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    If Mitch wants Matthews money, I tell their reps/dad that we are going to address all our other RFA's first, and then we will circle back to you, and you get what's leftover.

    You'll sign an offer sheet they say? No problem, we can exceed the cap by 10% in the summer, so the Leafs will match anything up to 4 first round picks. Oh, you wish to request a trade to a team that will pay him Matthews money? (Good luck, no team will pick up the phone on that).

    Here's your $4.5 million 2 year bridge Mitch. Enjoy.
     
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    Posted 4 times. lol
     
  8. lifelonghockeyfan

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    Isn't it sort of a dumb premise "Can the Leafs stay under the cap?" Well they have too. And the only way they do it is to trade a high priced player(s) for picks, prospects or players on ELC.
     
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    Kadri won't be dealt in a cap dump or for futures.

    Frederick Gauthier or Trevor Moore become our 3rd line centre, and lose the only foward with any "heaviness" we have.

    Zaitsev, marleau, brown all move before you consider kadri.
     
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    A lot will ride on what they give Marner. If they can get him less than $10M, it shouldnt be too hard. Would maybe have to move brown, and not resign gardiner.

    AJ and Kapanen will get squeezed on 1yr deals, with the knowledge some cap is opening in 2020.

    If they want to retain Gardiner, Marleau would have to move. Zaitsev likely doesnt clear enough room - minus replacement.

    I dont suspect there will be a lot of surgery, but would make additions difficult and would have to nickel and dime the little space they have for a late season addition.
     
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    I'm thinking that Liljegren will be given every opportunity to win a spot in the lineup out of camp. That is a $3.5 million saving over Zaitsev.
     
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    Agreed, but 3.5 wont be enough to retain gardiner. Gardiner is getting at least 5M aav if he takes with term. I would not at all be surprised to see teams willing to pay 6.5-7 over 5 or 6 years.
     
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    Important (in my mind) to not let Travis dermotts next deal get too big.

    With Gardiner likely gone, dermott is moving into a much bigger role.
    I propose we sign him this summer so that his demands don't go way up.

    I'd offer 3.5-4 million over 6-7 years and see what he says.
    Hopefully he like a guaranteed 25 million
     
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    With Rielly, Muzzin, and Dermott as LD, anything above $5 million doesn't work. Trade Brown and replace him at league minimum and you have your $5 million. But I would rather use $5 million on a RD.
     
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    Shedding Hyman and/or Brown for ELCs ain't going to be a panacea for cap constraints. One of Johnsson or Kapanen going is unfortunately more likely.

    Swap out both Hyman and Brown for ELC players and save less than $3M. Johnsson and Kapanen are both playing and producing at the level of a $5M AAV player. That's what they're going to demand. Swap one of Johnsson or Kapanen for an ELC player and save over $4M.
     
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    I'd be in no rush to move Hyman out anyway.

    Brown will likely be a casualty. If we're looking for another D, Kapanen is the most likely bait. I suspect he'd cost more than Johnsson, he's in a position we have more prospects than AJ and his value is probably a little higher currently too.
     
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    To Detroit:
    Brown
    Zaitsev
    Aaltonen
    3rd

    To Toronto:
    Jensen
    Glendening
    5th

    To Carolina:
    Kadri
    Kapanen

    To Toronto:
    Pesce
    Kuokkanen

    Sign Spezza: 1 Year @ ~2.5 mil

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    19/20
    Gardiner UFA 4.05M
    Lindholm UFA 925K
    Hainsey UFA 3M
    Ennis UFA 650K
    Hutch UFA 650K

    20/21
    Horton UFA 5.3M
    Marleau UFA 6.25M
     
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    Trade Gardiner
    Resign Hainsey to 1 year same money
    Use Gardiner,Horton,Marleau money to sign Marner
     
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    You know, for all the praise Tampa gets for their ability to get their stars on team friendly contracts, their cap situation is just as sticky if not worse than the Leafs going into next season. I just don't understand why they are lauded so much for their cap management. 1 if not 2 of their main pieces will have to be traded before next season if it is their hope to sign Point long term. They have a lot of roster holes to fill in '19-'20.
     
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    I hope someone like Spezza would be willing to give a hometown discount, also knowing they're joining a cup contender...

    Also hope there is a bargain bin RHD available for cheap, since a lot of RFAs are going to get paid, and there are a lot of quality UFAs so far.

    Trade Zaitsev for caproom

    Trade Kadri +++ for Pietrangelo

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    Tavares 11
    Marner 11
    Matthews 11.6
    Nylander 6.96
    Kapanen 3
    Johnsson 3
    Hyman 2.25
    Kadri 4.5
    Moore .775
    Goat .675
    Marchment .7675
    Engvall .925
    56.4525m

    Rielly 5
    RHD 5
    Muzzin 4
    Dermott .863
    Rosen .750
    6th 1.0
    16.613m

    Andersen 5
    Backup .700
    5.7m

    Retained: Kessel 1.2m

    Total: 79.9655m

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    Kapanen Matthews Nylander
    Johnsson Tavares Marner
    Moore Kadri Hyman
    Marchment Goat Engvall

    Rielly RHD
    Muzzin Dermott
    Rosen 6th

    Andersen
    Backup
     
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    I've been brainstorming ways to build the team for 2019-2020 while keepying Nylander... its possible, but in reality, he may have priced himself out of town. If he took an Ehlers contract (closest comparable), things would be so much easier.
     
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