Salary Cap: 2019-20 How Can the Leafs Stay Under The Cap?

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MyBudJT

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Horrible value for Kapanen. Gauthier is a prospect who hasnt proven anything. If kap is going to the canes then pesce has to be coming back.

Zaitsev@50+Kapanen

Pesce+Sabres 2nd

Pesce doesn't fit in the cap... Carolina likely has no interest in Zaitsev.

Trading Zaitsev is a pipe dream among this fanbase... not happening.

Edit: If value is low, upgrade the draft picks.
 

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Pesce doesn't fit in the cap... Carolina likely has no interest in Zaitsev.

Trading Zaitsev is a pipe dream among this fanbase... not happening.

Edit: If value is low, upgrade the draft picks.

Z is tradeable. Leafs will have to give up a lot to get somebody to take him or will have to take a bad contract back.
 

MyBudJT

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Z is tradeable. Leafs will have to give up a lot to get somebody to take him or will have to take a bad contract back.

I honestly don't think its worth it...

We need to keep our cheap assets, it doesn't make any sense to empty our cupboards to get rid of a contract... we're going to need keep our cheap prospects to fill out our roster.
 
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Pesce doesn't fit in the cap... Carolina likely has no interest in Zaitsev.

Trading Zaitsev is a pipe dream among this fanbase... not happening.

Edit: If value is low, upgrade the draft picks.

Absolutely.

We may have to do what other top teams have had to do over the cap years, dump salary for picks and prospects.

Kadri for a first. Zaitsev for a 2nd. Those type of deals.
 
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sign Marner to a bridge deal. Or trade for people on long term cheap contracts aka Pesce
 

hamzarocks

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Alright, let's just get rid of Marner then. Problem solved.
Are you trying to win a cup? Trading a franchise player would be a terrible choice. Try other ways. Zaitsev 50% retention or a buy out if need be. Marleau 50%Renton should be tradable if he waives. Nylander should be dealt before any thoughts of trading marner.
 
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Are you trying to win a cup? Trading a franchise player would be a terrible choice. Try other ways. Zaitsev 50% retention or a buy out if need be. Marleau 50%Renton should be tradable if he waives. Nylander should be dealt before any thoughts of trading marner.

Obviously, but people seem to be taking some ridiculous takes on the idea of having to pay for great players.
 

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Pesce doesn't fit in the cap... Carolina likely has no interest in Zaitsev.

Trading Zaitsev is a pipe dream among this fanbase... not happening.

Edit: If value is low, upgrade the draft picks.

Hurricanes are desperate for forwards so a package based around Johnsson, Kadri and Zaitsev for Pesce++(prospects only) would definitely peak their interest.

That would give them a complete second line that can do some damage: Johnsson-Kadri-Teräväinen

Leafs can bring in a young 3C on another deal. Its time to get creative.
Dubas is among the first GMs with a stacked young team who has to deal with building a team in the era without 10+ year low AAV deals. Pittsburgh (Crosby), Caps (Ovechkin), Hawks (Keith, Hossa), and Kings (Carter and Richards) were all beneficiaries of it. Nashville, Winnipeg, TBL all have their market benefits. Penny pinching in toronto isn't going to fly.
 

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So is 11.6 for Matthews, yet here we are
Came here to say nice username.

Will also add - Trade Zaitsev, bridge Kapanen & Johnsson for 2 years, everyone fits, even with Mitch at 11.

Worst case scenario Marleau goes to whoever is willing to take him at whatever cap# you need to retain next year to fit those guys in.

We need to stop worrying about fitting in ELITE players, it will happen come hell or high water.
 

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Came here to say nice username.

Will also add - Trade Zaitsev, bridge Kapanen & Johnsson for 2 years, everyone fits, even with Mitch at 11.

Worst case scenario Marleau goes to whoever is willing to take him at whatever cap# you need to retain next year to fit those guys in.

We need to stop worrying about fitting in ELITE players, it will happen come hell or high water.
Problem with that is Marleau will likely refuse to waive his NMC . He loves it here and has 2 young kids in school in Toronto
 

Ports

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Brown HAS to be traded. A 4th line of Bracco-Gauthier-Moore would be solid and cheap.

Really hoping the leafs pull off the Marleau trade, buy out and re-sign (similar to what the Caps did with Orpik)
How does that work?
 

Ports

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So lets pretend he digs in and says "Nope, NMC, not leaving"

And Babcock says "Fine. Don't leave. But also don't plan on playing because we don't have room for you"

Is he going to dig in or try and find a mutual out to help both sides?

He may control his trade status. But we control if he ever steps on the ice with this team again.

That "hammer" goes both ways. I don't see Marleau as the type of guy willing to dig in over $1.25 mil when he can work his way around it and potentially even still end up back in Toronto on a lower cap hit and be made whole financially.
Except that Babcock loves the fellow Saskatchewaner.
 

Ports

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Why wouldn't he? Arizona is a much nicer place to retire then Toronto. He can't help it if they buy him out making him UFA.

You need proof of a conspiracy to prove it.

Without a paper trail, as the Orpik situation proved, there's almost nothing anyone can do about it until they close the loophole in the next CBA.
Didn’t he sign with the Leafs because he wants to win a cup? Why would he give that up to go to Arizona. He can retire wherever he wants to anyway after his contract expires.
 
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