That's why. Stephens was chosen for the same reason as Cirelli -200 foot all-around forwards. If they didn't score a lot in the NHL it was not the end of the world. We knew what we were getting. The difference is Cirelli surprised us with A LOT more offense. Katchouk has been a jack of all trades his whole career even down to killing penalties in juniors and being really good at it. But the idea was maybe he could do that at the NHL level like Killorn. But he's not even close. Raddysh (who has the higher offensive ceiling between hin and Stephens) is struggling too much and we were hoping for a top 6 winger out of him. Volkov (the preseason warrior) looks lost every time he hits the ice. Stephens does a little bit of everything well and that's why he made it. I can't say I'm surprised nor that he deserved it. It's just that the big problem here is that the scorers got jumped by a well rounded player in an organization that is already filled to the brim with well rounded players. That doesn't look good for them in my opinion.
We both agree on Foote though. He is better served in Syracuse unless he's good NHL minutes. But I don't know what is gonna happen yet. Cooper in these last few years is finally starting to ease up on his approach to rookies. If Cooper (if he is even still here next year) believes Foote is responsible enough defensively I don't think it's insane to see him get a look in the top 6 with a guy like Point. But that's next year.
We'd have to overpay to get Pageau, so no thanks.I am hoping to get a power forward say kreider but one guy i think we could do a deal for is very interesting even though is tiny 5'9 think he would fit right in to top line and move stamkos out....
jean gabriel pageau..... he would be worth us picking up super high skill set 3.1 milly right now.....
would have to get him a raise if wanted to keep which id think we would honestly.... most people think he gets around 5 but with us would be more cause would be over a ppg guy a lot over imho be a short time at deadline but we have extra pick etc.. it might be the right move
so
point kucherov pageau
stamkos palat johnson
cirelli killorn gourde
maroon paquette stephens
ya i like it brisebois make it happen he would be the right fit imho move the vancouver or our 2021 pick and whatever else needed ... guy has killers numbers on worst team in hockey thats SICK imho..... he has mad skills just my take....
will probably have to move paquette next year for nolan foote if kept everyone but that is a fair move imho
p.s. having a PLUS minus of 13 on ottawa might deserve a trophy lol
Ottawa Senators 2019-20 roster and scoring statistics at hockeydb.com look at that mess
What element does he bring that we need?What if we end up getting someone like ol' Jumbo? Does he have a place? Is the locker room big enough for his beard?
Stamkos would have some competition for the biggest choker on the team.What element does he bring that we need?
Well, for one he likes to pass instead of shooting, even when he has an opportunity. He also has been criticized for not being a clutch player.What element does he bring that we need?
We'd have to overpay to get Pageau, so no thanks.
In my opinion JBB will end up making a minor trade to get a 3rd line winger and I'll be okay with that.
No need to get Kreider/Pageau/Toffoli just to overpay and then see them do jack **** during the playoffs
id be for it I’d offer a 2nd rounder and if we make it to the ECF it becomes a 1st rounder! But I don’t know if Brisebois does it our organization loves to hord draft picks and prospectsI am hoping to get a power forward say kreider but one guy i think we could do a deal for is very interesting even though is tiny 5'9 think he would fit right in to top line and move stamkos out....
jean gabriel pageau..... he would be worth us picking up super high skill set 3.1 milly right now.....
would have to get him a raise if wanted to keep which id think we would honestly.... most people think he gets around 5 but with us would be more cause would be over a ppg guy a lot over imho be a short time at deadline but we have extra pick etc.. it might be the right move
so
point kucherov pageau
stamkos palat johnson
cirelli killorn gourde
maroon paquette stephens
ya i like it brisebois make it happen he would be the right fit imho move the vancouver or our 2021 pick and whatever else needed ... guy has killers numbers on worst team in hockey thats SICK imho..... he has mad skills just my take....
will probably have to move paquette next year for nolan foote if kept everyone but that is a fair move imho
p.s. having a PLUS minus of 13 on ottawa might deserve a trophy lol
Ottawa Senators 2019-20 roster and scoring statistics at hockeydb.com look at that mess
id be for it I’d offer a 2nd rounder and if we make it to the ECF it becomes a 1st rounder! But I don’t know if Brisebois does it our organization loves to hord draft picks and prospects
That's exactly why I think there will be a minor trade.I don’t think Brisebois will make any trades because all he can add is rentals and the lightning organization does not trade for rentals
On this matter, I really hope we don't trade away any of our 1st rounder.id be for it I’d offer a 2nd rounder and if we make it to the ECF it becomes a 1st rounder! But I don’t know if Brisebois does it our organization loves to hord draft picks and prospects
So how is Joseph doing in Syracuse?
i know it i dont like to give up often myself but just like the kid id rather get a chippy vet but not seeing much yet need more rumors....
imho pageau is flat out going somewhere for us to offer a conditional first in 2021? im for it....
i also know has been a LONG time since a guy has came into a team at trade deadline and done anything productive....
this kid has game though and that plus minus is amazing to say the least..... being from an ottawa team that everyone is minus 3 or worse lol being 15 times better then anyone on team scoring wise is a kucherov type of thing lol
i do think joseph will come back get things together and really think nolan foote has an excellent chance of making the team next year so you have to weigh other things i feel stephens is legit and should stay up unless we added for playoff run more then one person etc...
So how is Joseph doing in Syracuse?
So how is Joseph doing in Syracuse?
Probably a 2nd for Simmonds we could get him for that3 goals 8 points in 9 games so he didnt go down and pout that is for sure....
as far as trading for a rental i dislike the ideal cause we got 3 first in next 2 years or i thought we did so can do some maneuvering honesstly.... a guy we could look at todd brought up wayne simmonds which is interesting but with cooper you know he would stick him with power play first unit lol and mess with it when it is fine and shouldnt be messed with and instead of putting him with maroon would probably absolutely have him with stamkos smdh....
i wish he had played less offensive zone starts not sure what he has left etc...
i dont think we have to give up a joseph to get a simmonds or pageau or pretty much anyone that is going be available this year just my opinion but thinking is gonna be less big names out there this year so can get better value on the guys available cause most are not exactly blowing up the nhl lol
i would think done right you can do a pick conditional and a sort of no name guy if needed over moving anyone right not with legit nhl pedigree.....