Post-Game Talk: 2018 Trade Deadline - How Happy Are You?

[Mugzy97]

no they don't. in fact for many selling GMs, the rationale is precisely the opposite -- let's wait till the offseason/draft when there are more suitors and we'll get better value for our asset. A major reason being the salary cap, obviously.

Ok but why tinker with your roster during the season? Better to tinker in the offseason. And values get inflated at the deadline for sure.

what?

of course it made sense for the team -- you admitted yourself that a Hamonic trade was almost made. it didn't fall through because it didn't make sense suddenly for whatever reason. It fell through because the Flames made a better offer.

Hamonic made sense for the price we offered but Calgary offered more, so would it have made sense to up our offer? Obviously not.

 

[Duffman955]

Ok but why tinker with your roster during the season? Better to tinker in the offseason. And values get inflated at the deadline for sure.

Hamonic made sense for the price we offered but Calgary offered more, so would it have made sense to up our offer? Obviously not.

What did we offer for hamonic, also does anyone know what we offered for mcd?

 

[Mugzy97]

What did we offer for hamonic, also does anyone know what we offered for mcd?

I think it was reportedly JVR and a 1st.

 

[Mess]

You're forgetting that they'll be getting better in 3 years, when all their new contracts are going to be active. They'll also have enough cap space to fill in replacements.
They could grab a big defender that you've always wanted!

The Leafs best window to compete for the Cup is this year and next while Leafs 3 Amigo's are on entry level contracts paying them < $1 mil each.

Sure the kids will improve but not exponentially at a level to absorb the losses of veterans that must go for Cap reasons.

Case in point Mathews is a 40 goal man now making <$1 mil ELC and just because you increase his cap hit 10X up to $10 mil you don't get his 40 goals to improve by 10X ie 40 X 10 = 400 goals now that he is occupying so much more cap.

Also true for Nylander who say goes from <$1 mil to $6 mil per... That means in order to afford Willy next year they have to let 30 goal & 60 point JVR ($4.25 mil) walk away. Willie gets marginally better and going from 20 goal 60 point now (to say 25 goals and 75 points) but its not going to 50 goals 120 point player (when adding Nylander and JVR production together) to absorb the loss.

Willie at 20 goal + 40 assists 60 points + JVR at 30 goals + 30 assists 60 points = 50 goals & 120 points total this season >>>>>> improved Nylander 25 goals and 75 points next year and JVR (done due to UFA) replaced by Marlie next year, for the same cap hit.

 

[ToneDog]

I feel like Lou would rather build his team in the offseason and only tweak it at the deadline where costs get higher. This theory would save people from making knee jerk moves and regretting them later. How often does the team who makes the big deadline acquisition actually win the cup?

Not often. Odds are against all but one team per year. Kings (Gaborik), and Hawks (Vermette) ??

 

[Brobust]

Friedman mentioned on 31 thoughts that Leafs weren't really in on McDonagh but they were trying to acquire a 1st round pick.

I find it really hard to gauge what this management wants to do.