Speculation: 2018 Stars Off-Season Thread

[M88K]

I want Seguin signed as much as anyone, but this summer Kucherov signed an 8x$9.5 deal in a no-tax state, while scoring more points in the last 2 seasons and being one year younger, so maybe let's pump the brakes on overpaying Seguin too quickly?

8x$10 is fair, more than that and Seguin is just being greedy, especially considering that age-based stats tells us that this last season was probably his peak and he will be more likely than not to decline from here on out.

Kucherovs includes RFA Years, wildly different scenario.
TB is also a perennial Contender, so it would make sense for him to take a discount.
Seguin has no RFA years to buy out, and Dallas isn't/hasn't been anywhere close to contending for his tenure

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

If you want to play for a contender, always makes sense to take a little less, so $$$ is available to upgrade roster around you.

 

[Troy McClure]

If you want to play for a contender, always makes sense to take a little less, so $$$ is available to upgrade roster around you.

Which is why he shouldn't offer the Stars a discount.

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

Stars aren't that far away from making the PO, which is all the GM really wants, using the "anything can happen" mantra. If Tyler wants to stay, the difference (especially with taxes, etc.) between $10M here and $11M somewhere else is nominal. I believe a discount is in order especially to a non stacked team that does have some potential.

I do agree that something has to be done to change the losing culture before we can be really good, and our two highest paid players are hopefully the guys to do it.

If you were going to bring in one grizzled vet who is associated with winning, who would it be?

 

[ItsBennGreat]

Here's something to give us a laugh. The Stars remain superior in trolling it's own players and their weaknesses.
Enjoy lol

 

[BfantZ]

If nill is still trying to land Karlsson than he would likely be waiting to see how it pans out before giving seguin a huge contract . If they get Karlsson , seguin would be more likely to sign a cheaper deal .

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

he would sure be excited about playing this year for the Stars. Imagine the old "trade our worst for the best" scenario, and adding EK in place of Pollack (or probably Honka who would get traded in the deal) makes for a nice D upgrade, and with EK, some offensive pop, too.

On the forward side, imagine replacing Shore, Ritchie, Smith, etc. with Patches or some similarly skilled forward. Seems like those two changes would rocket us up the team power rankings. Of course, we thought that in nearly every off season since Nill has been here.

 

[Zapp]

he would sure be excited about playing this year for the Stars. Imagine the old "trade our worst for the best" scenario, and adding EK in place of Pollack (or probably Honka who would get traded in the deal) makes for a nice D upgrade, and with EK, some offensive pop, too.

On the forward side, imagine replacing Shore, Ritchie, Smith, etc. with Patches or some similarly skilled forward. Seems like those two changes would rocket us up the team power rankings. Of course, we thought that in nearly every off season since Nill has been here.

According to Portzline we're on Panarin's preferred destination list. Either one of Panarin or Karlsson and I'm happy.

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

Panarin would be great, too, probably better than EK!

 

[ItsBennGreat]

Panarin would be great, too, probably better than EK!

I like this, this would be good

 

[LT]

Panarin is harder to acquire, based on CBJs needs and their current position in the league.

 

[jballa95]

According to Portzline we're on Panarin's preferred destination list. Either one of Panarin or Karlsson and I'm happy.

The rumour was that he wanted to be by the coast. The other teams on the list are the New York Rangers, New York Islanders, Los Angeles, Tampa Bay, and Florida. I wouldn't be surprised if Radulov has a major pull on Russians wanting to play in Dallas.

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

Nill is playing with fire a little here, but I understand why. If a GM goes around overpaying players (even your second best player) by a million or two you get into a bad situation. I’d be okay with Seguin at 11, because of how much leverage he has in the situation.

On another note, I’m 100% on board with waiting while we go after Breadman/Karlsson. Do you want to be rich and play on a contender? Or do you want to be slightly more rich and play on a bubble team. Tampa has gotten players to take discounts. Even Winnipeg has gotten their players at cheaper rates (mostly RFA’s but the point stands).

 

[Morry83]

According to Portzline we're on Panarin's preferred destination list. Either one of Panarin or Karlsson and I'm happy.

Where’d you see this? Cause that would be awesome.

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

The rumour was that he wanted to be by the coast. The other teams on the list are the New York Rangers, New York Islanders, Los Angeles, Tampa Bay, and Florida. I wouldn't be surprised if Radulov has a major pull on Russians wanting to play in Dallas.

Galveston isn't that far away......

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

Nill is playing with fire a little here, but I understand why. If a GM goes around overpaying players (even your second best player) by a million or two you get into a bad situation. I’d be okay with Seguin at 11, because of how much leverage he has in the situation.

On another note, I’m 100% on board with waiting while we go after Breadman/Karlsson. Do you want to be rich and play on a contender? Or do you want to be slightly more rich and play on a bubble team. Tampa has gotten players to take discounts. Even Winnipeg has gotten their players at cheaper rates (mostly RFA’s but the point stands).

You would think Nill would have had those discussions with Tyler's agent....."We'll take care of you, but we are also trying to strengthen the team around Tyler, Jamie, Klinger, etc." shouldn't be to hard for Tyler to take, unless of course, he sees it as chipping into his $11M.

 

[LT]

Galveston isn't that far away......

4+ hours isn't exactly close...

 

[john skull]

Does anyone have interest in Brock Nelson? He's a ufa next year, probably wouldn't be too expensive. Deal wouldn't preclude a Karlsson acquisition.

 

[Kcb12345]

Does anyone have interest in Brock Nelson? He's a ufa next year, probably wouldn't be too expensive. Deal wouldn't preclude a Karlsson acquisition.

I'd be disappointed if we ended up with Nelson out of all the available UFAs this summer. So many better options available

 

[Zrhutch]

Thing to remember when talking Panarin- if you move Honka for him, suddenly you’re stuck giving Polak regular minutes.

 

[M88K]

Thing to remember when talking Panarin- if you move Honka for him, suddenly you’re stuck giving Polak regular minutes.

Not really, there is other Defenseman that could play a meaningless role such as Heatherington, or Bayreuther that could handle small doses of 3rd pairing duty

 

[Dynamite Time]

Galveston isn't that far away......

South Padre Island is nice.

 

[Dynamite Time]

You would think Nill would have had those discussions with Tyler's agent....."We'll take care of you, but we are also trying to strengthen the team around Tyler, Jamie, Klinger, etc." shouldn't be to hard for Tyler to take, unless of course, he sees it as chipping into his $11M.

I agree. If Nills goal is to possibly try and land Karlsson or someone else and is having to watch his money you would think he would’ve talked to Seguin and his agent about this already. Obviously he hasn’t though... Than what does the GM do?

 

[Magic Mittens]

Thing to remember when talking Panarin- if you move Honka for him, suddenly you’re stuck giving Polak regular minutes.

If we land Panarin, worrying about our 6th Dman isnt a big deal in this scenario

 

[Dynamite Time]

If we land Panarin, worrying about our 6th Dman isnt a big deal in this scenario

Agree, the positive with Panarin is much more than a loss of our 6th dman.