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Defense is tough to predict. Look at our past good defensemen. Tanev, undrafted, Edler, later pick, Ehrhoff later pick. Hutton later pick.@ChilliBilly Glad at least someone recognizes the absurdity in the often made claim that we have no defensive prospect depth.
Woo becoming a top 4 shutdown guy is the X factor to our future D core.
Hughes is a great prospect. The rest has a long way to go before they are anything special to talk about. Every team in the league has prospects like Woo, Rathbone, Utunen & Joulevi. None of these 3 players are separating themselves as elite prospect. Joulevi is still not in the NHL 3 years after his draft.
The Canucks have one of the worst NHL defenses in the league, they really need help there. So much help and right now only one of our prospects look like a sure bet to be an impact NHL-player. To me having depth in the prospect pool is having multiple guys who look ready to contribute soon, who are dominating their leagues. None of our prospects except for Hughes is doing that.
Just last year people were saying that Canucks had fantastic prospect depth in the but the weak seasons of Gadjovich, Palmu, Lind, Dahlen suddenly makes our wing depth for the future look suspect. And all of these guys had very good years last year.
Actually not every team has prispects like Joulevi woo and rathbone as evidenced by the chart on the prior page.Hughes is a great prospect. The rest has a long way to go before they are anything special to talk about. Every team in the league has prospects like Woo, Rathbone, Utunen & Joulevi. None of these 3 players are separating themselves as elite prospect. Joulevi is still not in the NHL 3 years after his draft.
The Canucks have one of the worst NHL defenses in the league, they really need help there. So much help and right now only one of our prospects look like a sure bet to be an impact NHL-player. To me having depth in the prospect pool is having multiple guys who look ready to contribute soon, who are dominating their leagues. None of our prospects except for Hughes is doing that.
Just last year people were saying that Canucks had fantastic prospect depth in the but the weak seasons of Gadjovich, Palmu, Lind, Dahlen suddenly makes our wing depth for the future look suspect. And all of these guys had very good years last year.
Actually not every team has prispects like Joulevi woo and rathbone as evidenced by the chart on the prior page.
Of the 26 dmen Van had 4 while Chicago had 3 and the rest of thr teams had one or none.
It's the same thing with HN top 50 nhl affiliated prospects last year the nucks had 5 while phil had 4 and the rest had two one or none.
Every team has prospects like you say but to different degrees of quality and number .
We appear to be doing top of the league prospect development according to some paid hockey experts anyway thank you.
Hughes is a great prospect. The rest has a long way to go before they are anything special to talk about. Every team in the league has prospects like Woo, Rathbone, Utunen & Joulevi. None of these 3 players are separating themselves as elite prospect. Joulevi is still not in the NHL 3 years after his draft.
The Canucks have one of the worst NHL defenses in the league, they really need help there. So much help and right now only one of our prospects look like a sure bet to be an impact NHL-player. To me having depth in the prospect pool is having multiple guys who look ready to contribute soon, who are dominating their leagues. None of our prospects except for Hughes is doing that.
Just last year people were saying that Canucks had fantastic prospect depth in the but the weak seasons of Gadjovich, Palmu, Lind, Dahlen suddenly makes our wing depth for the future look suspect. And all of these guys had very good years last year.
Yeah I'm not sure where if I've ever seen all those names on any prospect list perhaps you should enlighten us on your source to the hawks great success . Are they prospects or nhl players?Almost every team in the league has prospects like those 3. You mention Chicago. They have:
Jokiharju
Forsling
Boqvist
Beaudin
Tuulola
Raddysh
All of which are better than our #4 in Rathbone. Hughes gives us a high end talent, but compared to other teams we do not have good defensive depth.
Yeah I'm not sure where if I've ever seen all those names on any prospect list perhaps you should enlighten us on your source to the hawks great success . Are they prospects or nhl players?
We clearly have some very good defence prospects at top of our pool which is top tier for team prospects but that just it they're just prospects until their good enough to be nhl players and graduate.It's gonna get ugly. Their two best defensemen aren't under contract past next season and there's no savior coming up
I understand Forsling is an nhl player and has over a full season of games under his belt and has graduated from prospect status. Who else on your list is up with the big club.If you aren't aware of who those players are, why are you so confident in the strength of Vancouver's prospect pool? You at least must know Forsling.
Who made up that list? Is it some random? What’s the basis, just offense compared to peers in the same league compared to historical trends?
i loved our prospect depth a year or two years ago.
but many of our prospects had very weak seasons
however... its not world ending for the Canucks...if Hughes pans out like he looks like he will, Juolevi becomes at least a solid no.5 guy and one of demko/dipietro pans out, then the canucks are a top6 ufa signing away from icing a very good (mostly young) team.
i agree.If Canucks can sign Mark Stone or Panarin next season and if we can somehow manage to get a top 2 pick, we are off to the races.
Im sorry but Edler right now is a no 3 d-man, and won't get better with time. Tanev can play on the top pair but is injury prone, and has no offensive skills. Hutton is a no 4-5 d-man, he is playing better but he is not a game changer. Stetcher is a no 6-7 d-man.What a pile of whining. It's just not that bad. Edler was 21 when he had his first full season. Juolevi is 20. Was he the wrong choice? probably. But we have no idea what his ceiling is.
Hutton seems to be progressing. Stecher is not bad. Few more years of Edler.
So we have Edler for 2 -3 more years as a steadying influence, Tanev, the 3 mentioned above.
Add in Hughes, and Tryamkin returns and this is a pretty solid defense.
With Woo in the wings. Brisebois and Sautner etc as call ups.
What a pile of whining. It's just not that bad. Edler was 21 when he had his first full season. Juolevi is 20. Was he the wrong choice? probably. But we have no idea what his ceiling is.
Hutton seems to be progressing. Stecher is not bad. Few more years of Edler.
So we have Edler for 2 -3 more years as a steadying influence, Tanev, the 3 mentioned above.
Add in Hughes, and Tryamkin returns and this is a pretty solid defense.
With Woo in the wings. Brisebois and Sautner etc as call ups.
Three things are certain life: death, taxes and overrating junior prospects.