I think Tkachuk goes to AZ.
I just hope if we do trade for a 1st rounder, we don't end up being stupid with it. The only way I'd accept Brady Tkachuk in a Flames sweater is if we pick him later than 10th overall and we traded a mep player (Not Brodie) to get that pick. Otherwise, screw it.
I hope the Flames draft Sean Dhooghe
It's not surprising. It's pretty standard idiocy to obsess about collecting an entire family for one team, at the expense of logic; I assume there's some instinctive cognitive wiring that triggers it in a lot of people.The amount of non-hf Flames fans obsessed with Brady is concerning. Even if Brady was a RHS forward I'd still be hesitant in choosing him over Wahlstrom, Hughes, and Smith for the Flames if we somehow manage to get a top 8 pick.
As a general rule of thumb I'd rather see the Flames err on the side of extremely young and unproven rather than over-age and moderate growth. Naturally there's the occasional over-age guy who is a worthwhile grab, but most of them don't last past the 2nd/3rd round. The extremely young guys are much more of a gamble, but the potential ceiling is much higher, in my opinion.I think the better value players that could still be available in the 4th will be overagers, guys like Scott Perunovich, Vladislav Yeryomenko, Sean Durzi, Joey Keane, Connor Dewar, Logan Hutsko, Veini Vehviläinen.
I'm going to disagree on that. Overagers are the most undervalued type of prospect these guys draft years would be considered fantastic D+1 seasons had they been drafted the year before but since they weren't they're chopped liver to a lot of NHL teams.As a general rule of thumb I'd rather see the Flames err on the side of extremely young and unproven rather than over-age and moderate growth. Naturally there's the occasional over-age guy who is a worthwhile grab, but most of them don't last past the 2nd/3rd round. The extremely young guys are much more of a gamble, but the potential ceiling is much higher, in my opinion.
Why is fan obsession concerning? They don't run the draft. The Flames won't have a pick anywhere near high enough to draft him anyway, so why even waste a thought on it, let alone be concerned?The amount of non-hf Flames fans obsessed with Brady is concerning. Even if Brady was a RHS forward I'd still be hesitant in choosing him over Wahlstrom, Hughes, and Smith for the Flames if we somehow manage to get a top 8 pick.
Mangiapane was "over-aged"As a general rule of thumb I'd rather see the Flames err on the side of extremely young and unproven rather than over-age and moderate growth. Naturally there's the occasional over-age guy who is a worthwhile grab, but most of them don't last past the 2nd/3rd round. The extremely young guys are much more of a gamble, but the potential ceiling is much higher, in my opinion.
Why is fan obsession concerning? They don't run the draft. The Flames won't have a pick anywhere near high enough to draft him anyway, so why even waste a thought on it, let alone be concerned?
It's literally not anything. No GM worth a damn will listen to fans over scouts on who to draft. You say alot of crazy things, but this has to be up there as one of the worst.Although it's not everything, fanbase influences some decisions, meaning sometimes GMs choose players for profit and media reasons rather than actually helping the team.
It's literally not anything. No GM worth a damn will listen to fans over scouts on who to draft. You say alot of crazy things, but this has to be up there as one of the worst.
I know, and he put up nearly two points per game in his 18 y/o season, which is pretty high end growth given he doubled his point production from the previous season. Regardless, I didn't say all over-aged players are bad choices, but unless they're performing exceptionally well (like Mangiapagne) I don't see why you'd take them over young guys who may have substantially more growth potential.Mangiapane was "over-aged"
I've heard many reports saying Vancouver chose Virtanen over Nylander and Ehlers because he's BC boy that has size and grit.
...fanbase influences some decisions...
What does that have to do with fans being obsessed with a player? Sutter was the same way when he was here, he would regularly choose guys who had been through traumatic experiences because he believed it helped their character. But it wasn't representative of what the fans wanted, it was his own personal bias, it is the same with Dim JimI've heard many reports saying Vancouver chose Virtanen over Nylander and Ehlers because he's BC boy that has size and grit.
Although it's not everything, fanbase influences some decisions, meaning sometimes GMs choose players for profit and media reasons rather than actually helping the team.
Tkachuk is good. That’s the funny thing.
Not to mention his draft -1 numbers were really good... hard to dominate college as a freshmen (see Makar, Mittelstadt) especially as a draft eligible player on a deep, defensive team.
He dominated Canada at the WJC in his draft year. How is that not indicative of future success?
The Brady Tkachuk haters will get just as much egg as the Matt Tkachuk haters.
I love how much we debate this on our board. It's almost like we think these guys will be available in the 4th round.