NFL: 2018 NFL News & Notes discussion thread

[Blackhawkswincup]

I think Ben’s HOF status is not all it’s cracked up to be myself, but WTF Cam. Have things been going a little too well that you need to diss the other teams QB right before you play them? He’s a weird guy sometimes. Too much of a smart ass for his own good.

Roethisberger career
214 games (212 starts)
143-68-1 record
4,552/7,073 (64.4%)
55,527 yds
359 TD's (+ 19 rushing TD's)
189 INT's
94.2 career rtg

In playoffs
13-8
422/676 (62.4%)
5,256 yds
30 TD's
24 INT
86.5 career rtg

Won 2 SB's as starter

I mean what about his resume is not HOF?

 

[Say Hey Kid]

The Raiders have talked to MLB's Giants about playing there next year.

 

[Roboturner913]

I don't think he's undeserving of the HOF but I don't think he's a no-brainer first-ballot guy either. Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers are the no brainers of his era, then you start talking about the 5-6-7 spots and is he really any better than Rivers or Ryan? Sure he has two rings, but he also had the good fortune of ending up with the Steelers instead of the Chargers or Falcons. That's not to say he absolutely shouldn't get in, but I think it's not the slam dunk that a lot of people seem to think.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

The issue with guys like Rivers and Roethlisberger is that they were never considered the best QB of their era. Same feeling I have with A.J. Green.

 

[Hasbro]

The issue with guys like Rivers and Roethlisberger is that they were never considered the best QB of their era. Same feeling I have with A.J. Green.

And Brad park was never the best defenseman.

Personal baggage aside, I think Ben makes it.

I read this article knocking Fatass' HOF case making a superficial comparison to Dave Krieg, which pissed me off. You talk about Krieg's career without mentioning the word "fumble" once, you have no idea what he was about.

 

[rangerssharks414]

The issue with guys like Rivers and Roethlisberger is that they were never considered the best QB of their era. Same feeling I have with A.J. Green.

I think Green has been amazing considering what he's had to work with at QB.

 

[Troy McClure]

The issue with guys like Rivers and Roethlisberger is that they were never considered the best QB of their era. Same feeling I have with A.J. Green.

I dont think best is the standard. It's more among the best, and Big Ben for sure was among the best when he was on top.

I have no problem letting him in, but as a Browns fan, my opinion might need to be discounted.

I saw him win a whole lot of games over the years against the Browns. So many times they thought they had them beat, but he managed to come back and win. Other times, he would downright thrash them.

 

[Troy McClure]

 

[Hasbro]

I saw him win a whole lot of games over the years against the Browns.

Faint praise.

 

[Roboturner913]

And Brad park was never the best defenseman.

Personal baggage aside, I think Ben makes it.

I read this article knocking Fatass' HOF case making a superficial comparison to Dave Krieg, which pissed me off. You talk about Krieg's career without mentioning the word "fumble" once, you have no idea what he was about.

I think he makes it in too, but I think it might be one the voters let ride for a few years. It looks weird if you're putting in 6-7 QBs from the same era all within a few years of each other.

and then there's all the legal stuff.

 

[Troy McClure]

Faint praise.

For what it's worth, I've watched many QBs beat the Browns, but Big Ben has been the one to most consistently do so with individual herocis.

 

[GKJ]

I’d think the worst case scenario would be one winning the Super Bowl beating the other in the NFC Championship Game

 

[spintheblackcircle]

 

[GKJ]

We'll see next week

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Potential big positive for Bears heading into playoffs

 

[sigma six]

I like this, because I like stability. He built this team (twice) his way and the franchise has never had a better decade than the current one.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Its a fine deal and the job he did this year when most people expected major regression is impressive

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

 

[GKJ]

The issue with guys like Rivers and Roethlisberger is that they were never considered the best QB of their era. Same feeling I have with A.J. Green.

I think with QB’s and receivers is that both positions are the best they’ve ever been right now and by a lot. And I think writers and voters know that. Like would you rather have Rivers or Len Dawson?

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

 

[Troy McClure]

The league needs to create a Lady Bing style trophy to name after Fitzgerald.

 

[sigma six]

He's a helluva guy.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

So apparently Tom Brady hasn't denied that he's injured. Makes sense and while I wouldn't rule out a decline, I think this might pump the breaks a bit on the Brady is done train. With that said, I think the Patriots are a definite one and done in the playoffs this year. Should be fairly easy pickings for any team who plays them.

 

[Fish on The Sand]

So apparently Tom Brady hasn't denied that he's injured. Makes sense and while I wouldn't rule out a decline, I think this might pump the breaks a bit on the Brady is done train. With that said, I think the Patriots are a definite one and done in the playoffs this year. Should be fairly easy pickings for any team who plays them.

Brady noticably faded down the stretch last season after a hot start and it wasn't until the playoffs with the benefit of tons of rest that he started playing well again.

The decline this year was predictable and will be even more pronounced next year.

 

[Terry Yake]

for the first time its starting to look like brady might not finish his career in NE

with his comments today about wanting to play past next season and his noticeable decline this year it wouldn't surprise me at all if he pulled a unitas or montana and played his last season with a another team