NFL: 2018 NFL News & Notes discussion thread

[b1e9a8r5s]

That list lacks Jimmy Clausen

61.9 career rating, believe it or not

 

[What the Faulk]

61.9 career rating, believe it or not

Seems broken. 7 TDs to 14 ints, only twice threw for more than 190 (his last two games), 54% career accuracy. One of the worst I've ever seen. 22 games played, somehow.

 

[Terry Yake]

Who was worse, Peterman or Jamarcus Russell?

todd collins

 

[Canes]

Seems broken. 7 TDs to 14 ints, only twice threw for more than 190 (his last two games), 54% career accuracy. One of the worst I've ever seen. 22 games played, somehow.

Pickles is definitely one of the worst QBs to ever start 10+ games. He just had almost no redeeming qualities and very little talent, especially for a 2nd round draft pick (and being considered as top QB prospect at one point as well).

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

It's not close, I got to believe Peterman is one of the worst all time, to start multiple games.


Russell 65.2 career rating
Peterman 25.7

QBs with more 2+ career starts and QB ratings 50 or lower, since 1980....

Games	Passing
Rk	Player	From	To	Draft	Tm	Lg	G	GS	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	TD%	Int%	Rate
1	Ryan Leaf	1998	2001	2-Jan	TOT	NFL	25	21	317	655	48.4	3666	14	36	2.1	5.5	50
2	Keith Null	2009	2009	6-196	RAM	NFL	4	4	73	119	61.34	566	3	9	2.5	7.56	49.9
3	Bob Bleier	1987	1987		NWE	NFL	3	2	14	39	35.9	181	1	1	2.6	2.56	49.2
4	David Norrie	1987	1987	11-291	NYJ	NFL	2	2	35	68	51.47	376	1	4	1.5	5.88	48.4
5	Marques Tuiasosopo	2001	2008	Feb-59	RAI	NFL	13	2	49	90	54.44	554	2	7	2.2	7.78	48.1
6	Dave Ragone	2003	2003	Mar-88	HTX	NFL	2	2	20	40	50	135	0	1	0	2.5	47.4
7	Babe Laufenberg	1986	1990	6-168	TOT	NFL	16	7	93	211	44.08	1057	5	11	2.4	5.21	45.9
8	Bob Avellini	1981	1984	6-135	CHI	NFL	17	3	53	105	50.48	557	1	6	1	5.71	45.6
9	Brent Pease	1987	1988	11-295	OTI	NFL	20	3	62	135	45.93	792	3	9	2.2	6.67	44.4
10	Matt Robinson	1980	1982	9-227	TOT	NFL	34	7	83	172	48.26	1016	3	12	1.7	6.98	43.7
11	Art Schlichter	1982	1985	4-Jan	CLT	NFL	13	6	91	202	45.05	1006	3	11	1.5	5.45	42.6
12	Jeff Christensen	1983	1987	5-137	TOT	NFL	4	2	24	58	41.38	297	1	3	1.7	5.17	42.1
13	Caleb Hanie	2009	2012		TOT	NFL	10	4	59	116	50.86	679	3	10	2.6	8.62	41.6
14	Jeff Komlo	1980	1983	9-231	TOT	NFL	9	2	35	69	50.72	365	1	5	1.4	7.25	41
15	Dan Pastorini	1980	1983	3-Jan	TOT	NFL	15	10	130	287	45.3	1651	7	22	2.4	7.67	40
16	Spergon Wynn	2000	2001	6-183	TOT	NFL	10	3	70	152	46.05	585	1	7	0.7	4.61	39.5
17	Frank Seurer	1986	1987	Mar-76	KAN	NFL	9	2	26	55	47.27	340	0	4	0	7.27	36.9
18	Max Hall	2010	2010		CRD	NFL	6	3	39	78	50	370	1	6	1.3	7.69	35.7
19	Jeff Carlson	1990	1992	4-102	TOT	NFL	7	3	49	114	42.98	636	2	9	1.8	7.89	34.1
20	Kurt Kittner	2003	2003	5-158	ATL	NFL	7	4	44	114	38.6	391	2	6	1.8	5.26	32.5
Rk	Player	From	To	Draft	Tm	Lg	G	GS	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	TD%	Int%	Rate
21	Will Furrer	1992	1995	4-107	TOT	NFL	9	2	57	124	45.97	572	2	10	1.6	8.06	31.4
22	Brad Goebel	1991	1994		TOT	NFL	7	2	32	59	54.24	299	0	6	0	10.17	28.8
23	Brian Brohm	2009	2010	Feb-56	BUF	NFL	3	2	27	52	51.92	252	0	5	0	9.62	26
24	Tom Flick	1981	1986	Apr-90	TOT	NFL	21	3	47	106	44.34	506	2	10	1.9	9.43	25.9
25	Nathan Peterman	2017	2018	5-171	BUF	NFL	5	3	29	67	43.28	276	2	7	3	10.45	25.7
26	Rusty Lisch	1980	1984	Apr-89	TOT	NFL	30	2	55	115	47.83	547	1	11	0.9	9.57	25.1
27	Cody Pickett	2004	2005	7-217	SFO	NFL	6	2	18	45	40	195	0	4	0	8.89	16.4

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Only see 4 Bear QB's

Figured we would have more on this list

 

[Blitzkrug]

Who or what is a Keith Null?

After looking at Wiki i can confirm he exists, but not much else.

 

[What the Faulk]

Who or what is a Keith Null?

After looking at Wiki i can confirm he exists, but not much else.

He was the guy that took over for Bulger after he and Kyle Boller got hurt in 2009. Completely forgot he was a Panther in 2010.

And speaking of that year, nothing is ever going to top this combined performance from all 4 QBs.

That's a combined line of 24/51 for 147 yards, 0 touchdowns and 7 interceptions and a 49.8 total QB rating Don't think there was even any weather, either.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Ah yes

The game after Cutler had his brains scrambled by Giants (They had 9 sacks) and was out. It was also one of those games in which both teams wore excessive pink for breast cancer awareness if I remember

3 of the 4 QB's ended up Chicago Bear starters ugh

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

todd collins

Believe it or not Todd once was regarded as a QB with potential #1 upside and was viewed as heir to Kelly

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Cody Pickett is up there.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Since Jimmy G left the Pats he has 8 TDs and 8 INTs. Am I the only one who doesn't think he's a future HoFer?

He's started 8 games.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

And Nathan Peterman is easily the worst if you compare eras. Its much easier to throw the ball now and he's been that miserable.

 

[YEM]

I saw one of Craig Krenzel's starts for da bears against the giants
he went 8 for 21 and looked worse than that stat line
but the bears won pretty convincingly

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I saw one of Craig Krenzel's starts for da bears against the giants
he went 8 for 21 and looked worse than that stat line
but the bears won pretty convincingly

If we talk about worst start Henry Burris only NFL start ranks up there for worst performance by an NFL QB

7-19
78 yds
4 INT
10.3 Rtg

Bucs won game 15-0 as Martin Gramatica kicked 5 FG's

Cory Sauter the rookie everyone in Chicago wanted to play went 6/9 for 59 yds in relief and was cut loose in offseason

Dick Jauron may have been worst Bears coach in terms of handling QB situations

From his all 3 QB's will play idea (Matthews/McCown/Miller era) to his we gotta see if soon to be 28 yr old Henry Burris has something for future lets start him nonsense among other things

 

[GKJ]

Foles starts for the Eagles. I think we'll see Wentz after that.

And Nathan Peterman is easily the worst if you compare eras. Its much easier to throw the ball now and he's been that miserable.

I can't recall a quarterback in recent times who has looked so overmatched. We've seen guys who stink, but that guy looks like he doesn't even belong on the field.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Foles starts for the Eagles. I think we'll see Wentz after that.


I can't recall a quarterback in recent times who has looked so overmatched. We've seen guys who stink, but that guy looks like he doesn't even belong on the field.

He doesn't. Matt Canada's offense got him drafted.

 

[Blitzkrug]

He was the guy that took over for Bulger after he and Kyle Boller got hurt in 2009. Completely forgot he was a Panther in 2010.

And speaking of that year, nothing is ever going to top this combined performance from all 4 QBs.

That's a combined line of 24/51 for 147 yards, 0 touchdowns and 7 interceptions and a 49.8 total QB rating Don't think there was even any weather, either.

This box score should be framed. What art.

 

[Bob Richards]

Ryan Lindley just made the cut then lmao.

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

It's not close, I got to believe Peterman is one of the worst all time, to start multiple games.


Russell 65.2 career rating
Peterman 25.7

QBs with more 2+ career starts and QB ratings 50 or lower, since 1980....

Games	Passing
Rk	Player	From	To	Draft	Tm	Lg	G	GS	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	TD%	Int%	Rate
1	Ryan Leaf	1998	2001	2-Jan	TOT	NFL	25	21	317	655	48.4	3666	14	36	2.1	5.5	50
2	Keith Null	2009	2009	6-196	RAM	NFL	4	4	73	119	61.34	566	3	9	2.5	7.56	49.9
3	Bob Bleier	1987	1987		NWE	NFL	3	2	14	39	35.9	181	1	1	2.6	2.56	49.2
4	David Norrie	1987	1987	11-291	NYJ	NFL	2	2	35	68	51.47	376	1	4	1.5	5.88	48.4
5	Marques Tuiasosopo	2001	2008	Feb-59	RAI	NFL	13	2	49	90	54.44	554	2	7	2.2	7.78	48.1
6	Dave Ragone	2003	2003	Mar-88	HTX	NFL	2	2	20	40	50	135	0	1	0	2.5	47.4
7	Babe Laufenberg	1986	1990	6-168	TOT	NFL	16	7	93	211	44.08	1057	5	11	2.4	5.21	45.9
8	Bob Avellini	1981	1984	6-135	CHI	NFL	17	3	53	105	50.48	557	1	6	1	5.71	45.6
9	Brent Pease	1987	1988	11-295	OTI	NFL	20	3	62	135	45.93	792	3	9	2.2	6.67	44.4
10	Matt Robinson	1980	1982	9-227	TOT	NFL	34	7	83	172	48.26	1016	3	12	1.7	6.98	43.7
11	Art Schlichter	1982	1985	4-Jan	CLT	NFL	13	6	91	202	45.05	1006	3	11	1.5	5.45	42.6
12	Jeff Christensen	1983	1987	5-137	TOT	NFL	4	2	24	58	41.38	297	1	3	1.7	5.17	42.1
13	Caleb Hanie	2009	2012		TOT	NFL	10	4	59	116	50.86	679	3	10	2.6	8.62	41.6
14	Jeff Komlo	1980	1983	9-231	TOT	NFL	9	2	35	69	50.72	365	1	5	1.4	7.25	41
15	Dan Pastorini	1980	1983	3-Jan	TOT	NFL	15	10	130	287	45.3	1651	7	22	2.4	7.67	40
16	Spergon Wynn	2000	2001	6-183	TOT	NFL	10	3	70	152	46.05	585	1	7	0.7	4.61	39.5
17	Frank Seurer	1986	1987	Mar-76	KAN	NFL	9	2	26	55	47.27	340	0	4	0	7.27	36.9
18	Max Hall	2010	2010		CRD	NFL	6	3	39	78	50	370	1	6	1.3	7.69	35.7
19	Jeff Carlson	1990	1992	4-102	TOT	NFL	7	3	49	114	42.98	636	2	9	1.8	7.89	34.1
20	Kurt Kittner	2003	2003	5-158	ATL	NFL	7	4	44	114	38.6	391	2	6	1.8	5.26	32.5
Rk	Player	From	To	Draft	Tm	Lg	G	GS	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	TD%	Int%	Rate
21	Will Furrer	1992	1995	4-107	TOT	NFL	9	2	57	124	45.97	572	2	10	1.6	8.06	31.4
22	Brad Goebel	1991	1994		TOT	NFL	7	2	32	59	54.24	299	0	6	0	10.17	28.8
23	Brian Brohm	2009	2010	Feb-56	BUF	NFL	3	2	27	52	51.92	252	0	5	0	9.62	26
24	Tom Flick	1981	1986	Apr-90	TOT	NFL	21	3	47	106	44.34	506	2	10	1.9	9.43	25.9
25	Nathan Peterman	2017	2018	5-171	BUF	NFL	5	3	29	67	43.28	276	2	7	3	10.45	25.7
26	Rusty Lisch	1980	1984	Apr-89	TOT	NFL	30	2	55	115	47.83	547	1	11	0.9	9.57	25.1
27	Cody Pickett	2004	2005	7-217	SFO	NFL	6	2	18	45	40	195	0	4	0	8.89	16.4

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Ah yes. The great Spergeon Wynn. He had the worst performance I ever seen from a Vikings QB until the Joe Webb playoff game which was then topped by the Josh Freeman game.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Kiper caping for Clausen is an all time top 10 draft moment.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Yep

Sadly it appears ESPN had it removed as it used to be on YT

 

[spintheblackcircle]

 

[What the Faulk]

Kiper caping for Clausen is an all time top 10 draft moment.

Amazing that agent scandal didn't sink him. I get that Josh Luchs was probably not a great source, but come on.

Eight years ago, Mel Kiper said he’d retire in 2018 if Jimmy Clausen wasn’t a successful NFL QB – well, here we are…

 

[Voight]

61.9 career rating, believe it or not

The best is when Mel Kiper was so sure that Clausen would be better than Newton that he said he'd retire or something if he was wrong.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Josh is definitely an upgrade over either of their options. Just hope the line can at least give him a chance to breathe.