NFL GDT: 2018 NFC Wild Card Round: (3) Chicago Bears vs (6) Philadelphia Eagles

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Halladay

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Other than the patriots, Ravens, and Seahawks all other Super Bowl winners this century haven't won a playoff game the following season. Good job by the Eagles.
 

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Should the Bears have taken another shot to get Parkey closer? 10 seconds left was enough time for a sideline play.
 

Pestilence

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That was tipped but not severely to where it would have made a drastic difference. You only notice it in slow mo. The kick looked pulled to begin with. He shouldn't have kicked the first one, honestly.

Significant enough to alter the projection slightly to hit the upright. If it wasn't tipped it goes in, Bears win and no one blames Parkey.
 

Blackhawkswincup

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Even if he got a slight finger on it Parkey was disaster all year and everyone in Chicago feared a moment like this

Pace our idiot GM who dumped Gould for Barth created a mess 3 years ago that has been open wound on franchise since
 

StreetHawk

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Even if he got a slight finger on it Parkey was disaster all year and everyone in Chicago feared a moment like this

Pace our idiot GM who dumped Gould for Barth created a mess 3 years ago that has been open wound on franchise since
I recall gould getting cut. I remember that he missed a couple of kicks late that season that cost the Bears a couple of games.

He still finished the year 33 for 39 in FG.

In the last 3 years he’s made 82/85 FG and 75/82 XP. XP seems odd to miss that many given how few field goals he has missed.

Those extra 13 yards on the PAT has really messed with the heads of kickers. Used to see several pat just squeak in when it was from the 20. Now those kicks go wide.
 

Kyle McMahon

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Should the Bears have taken another shot to get Parkey closer? 10 seconds left was enough time for a sideline play.

With no timeouts it is very risky. Usually you would only try to get closer under those circumstances if you're right on the edge of FG range. Chicago was comfortably in range, so no need to risk it.

However, Matt Nagy did somewhat bungle the situation. Should have spiked on 1st down to preserve his timeout. If you spike on first, you can run that same play for 8 yards on second, and then run another quick play on third (probably a safe run to pick up a couple extra yards), then call timeout. Instead, Chicago was left in an odd situation where they still had 15 seconds left on 3rd down, but couldn't really do anything besides toss it out of bounds/hope a defensive back slipped and left a receiver wide open in the end zone.

I'd sure like to know what these coaches that allegedly spend 16 hours a day at the facility are doing with that time. Planning how you're going to manage the clock and your timeouts in the final two minutes (seemingly a crucial aspect of football) certainly doesn't seem to be something they give much thought to. I mean, 5 minutes before Nagy blew that timeout you have Doug Pederson take one of the dumbest timeouts anyone has ever seen. God only knows what Andy Reid will have in store for us next weekend.
 

GKJ

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With no timeouts it is very risky. Usually you would only try to get closer under those circumstances if you're right on the edge of FG range. Chicago was comfortably in range, so no need to risk it.

However, Matt Nagy did somewhat bungle the situation. Should have spiked on 1st down to preserve his timeout. If you spike on first, you can run that same play for 8 yards on second, and then run another quick play on third (probably a safe run to pick up a couple extra yards), then call timeout. Instead, Chicago was left in an odd situation where they still had 15 seconds left on 3rd down, but couldn't really do anything besides toss it out of bounds/hope a defensive back slipped and left a receiver wide open in the end zone.

I'd sure like to know what these coaches that allegedly spend 16 hours a day at the facility are doing with that time. Planning how you're going to manage the clock and your timeouts in the final two minutes (seemingly a crucial aspect of football) certainly doesn't seem to be something they give much thought to. I mean, 5 minutes before Nagy blew that timeout you have Doug Pederson take one of the dumbest timeouts anyone has ever seen. God only knows what Andy Reid will have in store for us next weekend.

If you're Doug, taking that time out makes sense. You're getting 1 play from the 2 on the best defense in the league. You best know what you're doing because with a minute left against the #1 defense, you're not getting another chance.
 

Kyle McMahon

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If you're Doug, taking that time out makes sense. You're getting 1 play from the 2 on the best defense in the league. You best know what you're doing because with a minute left against the #1 defense, you're not getting another chance.

I'll have to disagree. If you fail on 4th, the Bears are taking over on their own 2 yard line and you have all three timeouts. If your defense holds, you get the ball back with 45 seconds left, probably around midfield. Not a terrible situation by any means. By burning the timeout, you have practically no possibility of winning if your 4th down play fails. It's one thing if the clock was running, but it wasn't. It was stopped, and the Bears had used timeouts previously to slow things down. Philly had all the time in the world to figure out what they were going to do down there. If Doug isn't thinking more than one play in advance in that situation, he hasn't done his job.
 

GKJ

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I'll have to disagree. If you fail on 4th, the Bears are taking over on their own 2 yard line and you have all three timeouts. If your defense holds, you get the ball back with 45 seconds left, probably around midfield. Not a terrible situation by any means. By burning the timeout, you have practically no possibility of winning if your 4th down play fails. It's one thing if the clock was running, but it wasn't. It was stopped, and the Bears had used timeouts previously to slow things down. Philly had all the time in the world to figure out what they were going to do down there. If Doug isn't thinking more than one play in advance in that situation, he hasn't done his job.

He's thinking his best chance to win the game is right in front of him and needs to have the right play. This is the #1 defense in the league. Would you rather have 1 play from the 2 with a minute to go, or 3 plays from the 50 with 40 seconds to go, presuming you make the stop?
 

Kyle McMahon

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He's thinking his best chance to win the game is right in front of him and needs to have the right play. This is the #1 defense in the league. Would you rather have 1 play from the 2 with a minute to go, or 3 plays from the 50 with 40 seconds to go, presuming you make the stop?

You shouldn't need to burn the timeout to dream up this great play though. Should have already been planned, and there should have been a plan for what to audible into if the defense presented an unfavourable formation. Burning that timeout to re-think things should have been the absolute last resort. And to be fair, maybe it was.
 

GKJ

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You shouldn't need to burn the timeout to dream up this great play though. Should have already been planned, and there should have been a plan for what to audible into if the defense presented an unfavourable formation. Burning that timeout to re-think things should have been the absolute last resort. And to be fair, maybe it was.
He claimed after the game that that play they scored on was the kill play for that whole goal line sequence.
 
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