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I doubt Detroit would give up their 6th overall pick for Grubauer. Isles make the most sense.
Also, would including Orpik weaken the value of the deal? If not then it would seem to line up. I'm not sure Colorado altogether needs Orpik but IINM that was the other prime option for him four years ago. And, of course, NYI could also probably use him. Maybe that's better as a separate deal, though.My question is... would GMBM actually be willing to move Orpik? Does winning the Cup make it more or less likely they'd be willing to move him? Does losing Trotz -- who has been a staunch Orpik advocate -- change their view on Orpik's value for next season?
Caps trade a goalie to Colorado for a first round pick. Promptly pick a falling Swede. Trade him within the year for Martin Erat. I've seen this movie.
And Colorado is in the market for Gruby? Interesting. Also, I remember when Varley was traded to Colorado and all the Avs fans were peacocking the trade. Good times.
Kotkaniemi but he is apparently ranked higher than scouting services by teams due to McKenzie's ranking.If they can somehow get the #12, they need to hit it out of the park with that pick.
Who has star potential in the 10-15 range?
A Swede (Boqvist) & a Russian (Kravtsov), fittingly enough.Who has star potential in the 10-15 range?
A Swede (Boqvist) & a Russian (Kravtsov), fittingly enough.
Yes. Boqvist would be very nice.Boqvist.
He's a top 3-5 talent in this draft who's expected to go around pick 10.
The Caps took him to dinner recently.
Detroit owns picks 30, 33, and 36. They could be a player for Grubauer by packaging two of those picks.I doubt Detroit would give up their 6th overall pick for Grubauer. Isles make the most sense.
Detroit owns picks 30, 33, and 36. They could be a player for Grubauer by packaging two of those picks.
Also, would including Orpik weaken the value of the deal? If not then it would seem to line up. I'm not sure Colorado altogether needs Orpik but IINM that was the other prime option for him four years ago. And, of course, NYI could also probably use him. Maybe that's better as a separate deal, though.
It's 12 where they'd theoretically swap up for. There's some belief that the top tier ends at 12 so there could be strategic value there beyond the pick slot. I'm not sure the Caps would necessarily have Hayton in their top group but if Smith or Hayton go top 11 then it should render one of Boqvist or Kravtsov available at 12. Is that gap steep enough to warrant that swap up being more valuable than 16 outright? Or 22 outright if that's the other prime offer? I have to figure Lou has a lot of irons in the fire so my guess is a deal doesn't get done until on the draft floor. It could even depend on how the top 11 shakes out.
Oh, no question. On the other hand, might some of those teams just sign Roman Polak? Or Luke Schenn? Not to say they're 100% comparable but they're somewhat similar stylistically (albeit righties). Teams wouldn't get the off-ice stuff as much maybe but the on-ice may be comparable. The tricky thing, even with NYI who would know how to get the most out of him, is whether he's considered second pair material. If he isn't then it's an awful lot to shell out for a third pair and PK guy unless their PK was awful. NYI would know him best but I'm not sure even Trotz would readily buy into putting him on their second pair next season. Even if he doesn't I wouldn't rule them out since it could again be a culture change type move to initiate.Would you rather trade for one year of Orpik, or try to sign a guy like Paul Martin or Andy MacDonald, both guys of similar ilk who commanded term and dollar on the open market and the former of whom was just bought out?
Blockbuster Idea alert:
Caps send:
The rights to Carlson
Phillipp Grubauer
Andre Burakovsky
To the Islanders for:
Johnny Boychuk
Picks 11 and 12
Anthony Beauvillier
I'll get smoked for saying this but I'd probably take Merkley in that scenario.
Was about to post that. For a full rundown we have NYI (11/12), COL (16), OTT (22), CHI (27), DET (30) reportedly in the mix. If 16 is on the table then bundling 31 for 12 goes out the window IMO. Then it becomes NYI needing to move 12 outright. 16 or 22 would be just fine, though. I could maybe even see an Orpik+Grubauer package for Ottawa given that if they do make the pick at 4 they're not going to want to be suck next year.
I doubt Detroit would give up their 6th overall pick for Grubauer. Isles make the most sense.
Blockbuster Idea alert:
Caps send:
The rights to Carlson
Phillipp Grubauer
Andre Burakovsky
To the Islanders for:
Johnny Boychuk
Picks 11 and 12
Anthony Beauvillier
So...Alexeyev, O'Brien, Merkley & Marchenko or something similar? It could work and certainly would make sense from a cap management standpoint down the line when they'll likely need it. But it's hard to say. How much do they value the depth this year? It'll all play out on the draft floor most likely, which would add plenty of intrigue at certain spots throughout.30&33 from Detroit. WOW.....30/31/33 (and 46)? With Mahoney able to unearth gems? I'd take the quantity angle there....(and add a Merkley type)
So...Alexeyev, O'Brien, Merkley & Marchenko or something similar? It could work and certainly would make sense from a cap management standpoint down the line when they'll likely need it. But it's hard to say. How much do they value the depth this year? It'll all play out on the draft floor most likely, which would add plenty of intrigue at certain spots throughout.
Yes. That would only be if in their heart of hearts they know they won't be able to sign him.Yikes. No thank you. I appreciate the thought process, but I'm not into losing JC74. No matter what