NFL GDT: 2018 AFC Divisional Round: (2) New England Patriots vs (5) Los Angeles Chargers

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Harry22

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Couldn't be that in all these years they were aided by a horrible division where none of the teams committed to a true tank? They almost get 6 free wins a year. Then they get a bunch of overachieving teams from the prior year who end up sucking but earned a temporary first place schedule. 11 wins in a lot of years will get you the 1 seed. At worst a 2. NE in all this time has only succeeded with homefield and the byes. The AFC has been so weak over the years, hell I don't think any of these teams beat whoever reps the NFC this year.

It must be tiring being a Pats hater. They have the best stretch of football in the history of the league (19 seasons, 8 conference championships and 5 titles) and you still find a way to tone down their achievements. So pardon me if I don't trust your judgement when you are toning down their season this year.
 

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They are playing against one of the best home playoff teams ever, a team that has not lost a home game this year. He will be playing in the bitter cold and they won't have the luxury of playing against one of the worst playoff QB performances ever for 3 1/2 quarters (Lamar Jackson).
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Outside of KC who they barely beat, they had an EASY home schedulr.

It's not like NE is loaded on the line, has a strong backfield or anything. Gronk is a shell of himself. The only real weapon they got is Edelman. They aren't even the Pats of 2 years ago.
 

Gene Parmesan

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They are playing against one of the best home playoff teams ever, a team that has not lost a home game this year. He will be playing in the bitter cold and they won't have the luxury of playing against one of the worst playoff QB performances ever for 3 1/2 quarters (Lamar Jackson).

I mean you can keep over looking how good L.A. is but this isn't a slam dunk win for New England.
 

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The Patriots in recent years have had a lot of easy opponents in the divisional playoffs (Tebow, Osweiler, Mariota, a worse Colts team than this version, Schaub).

This is not one of those
 

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It must be tiring being a Pats hater. They have the best stretch of football in the history of the league (19 seasons, 8 conference championships and 5 titles) and you still find a way to tone down their achievements. So pardon me if I don't trust your judgement when you are toning down their season this year.

Pats fans are funny. Most of them can't recall what it was like in the 90's or prior. Before Bellichick they had like 5 coaches in 10 years. What's going on is an anomaly. McDainel's is stupid to want that job. I don't care if Kraft has kids who will take over, he's like 80. The long term prospects are not likely good. They are not gunna remain on top just because they are the Patriots. The greatness is about to leave. I don't think most of the fanbase gets this. It's NOT this easy.
 

Harry22

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Outside of KC who they barely beat, they had an EASY home schedulr.

It's not like NE is loaded on the line, has a strong backfield or anything. Gronk is a shell of himself. The only real weapon they got is Edelman. They aren't even the Pats of 2 years ago.

Chargers wins:

- Buffalo (6-10)
- San Francisco (4-12)
- Oakland (4-12)
- Cleveland (7-8-1)
- Tennessee (9-7)
- Seattle (10-6)
- Oakland again (4-12)
- Arizona (3-13)
- Pittsburgh (9-6-1)
- Cincinnati (6-10)
- Kansas City (12-4)
- Denver (6-10)

Total combined record: 80-110-2, 41.67 win%

Hardly a hard schedule. You like to scoff at the Pats win against KC so let me do the same to the Chargers win against them.

Now lets look at the Pats wins:

- Houston (11-5)
- Miami (7-9)
- Indianapolis (10-6)
- Kansas City (12-4)
- Chicago (12-4)
- Buffalo (6-10)
- Green Bay (6-9-1)
- Jets (4-12)
- Minnesota (8-7-1)
- Buffalo (6-10)
- Jets (4-12)

Total combined record: 82-88-2, 47.67 win%

Will you look at that, the Pats wins came against better teams. Oh my.
 

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Chargers wins:

- Buffalo (6-10)
- San Francisco (4-12)
- Oakland (4-12)
- Cleveland (7-8-1)
- Tennessee (9-7)
- Seattle (10-6)
- Oakland again (4-12)
- Arizona (3-13)
- Pittsburgh (9-6-1)
- Cincinnati (6-10)
- Kansas City (12-4)
- Denver (6-10)

Total combined record: 80-110-2, 41.67 win%

Hardly a hard schedule. You like to scoff at the Pats win against KC so let me do the same to the Chargers win against them.

Now lets look at the Pats wins:

- Houston (11-5)
- Miami (7-9)
- Indianapolis (10-6)
- Kansas City (12-4)
- Chicago (12-4)
- Buffalo (6-10)
- Green Bay (6-9-1)
- Jets (4-12)
- Minnesota (8-7-1)
- Buffalo (6-10)
- Jets (4-12)

Total combined record: 82-88-2, 47.67 win%

Will you look at that, the Pats wins came against better teams. Oh my.

That would make the Pats 4-0 against playoff teams, iirc no other team this year went undefeated against playoff teams...
 
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Le Tricolore

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Chargers wins:

- Buffalo (6-10)
- San Francisco (4-12)
- Oakland (4-12)
- Cleveland (7-8-1)
- Tennessee (9-7)
- Seattle (10-6)
- Oakland again (4-12)
- Arizona (3-13)
- Pittsburgh (9-6-1)
- Cincinnati (6-10)
- Kansas City (12-4)
- Denver (6-10)

Total combined record: 80-110-2, 41.67 win%

Hardly a hard schedule. You like to scoff at the Pats win against KC so let me do the same to the Chargers win against them.

Now lets look at the Pats wins:

- Houston (11-5)
- Miami (7-9)
- Indianapolis (10-6)
- Kansas City (12-4)
- Chicago (12-4)
- Buffalo (6-10)
- Green Bay (6-9-1)
- Jets (4-12)
- Minnesota (8-7-1)
- Buffalo (6-10)
- Jets (4-12)

Total combined record: 82-88-2, 47.67 win%

Will you look at that, the Pats wins came against better teams. Oh my.
patriots suck.
 
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Chargers wins:

- Buffalo (6-10)
- San Francisco (4-12)
- Oakland (4-12)
- Cleveland (7-8-1)
- Tennessee (9-7)
- Seattle (10-6)
- Oakland again (4-12)
- Arizona (3-13)
- Pittsburgh (9-6-1)
- Cincinnati (6-10)
- Kansas City (12-4)
- Denver (6-10)

Total combined record: 80-110-2, 41.67 win%

Hardly a hard schedule. You like to scoff at the Pats win against KC so let me do the same to the Chargers win against them.

Now lets look at the Pats wins:

- Houston (11-5)
- Miami (7-9)
- Indianapolis (10-6)
- Kansas City (12-4)
- Chicago (12-4)
- Buffalo (6-10)
- Green Bay (6-9-1)
- Jets (4-12)
- Minnesota (8-7-1)
- Buffalo (6-10)
- Jets (4-12)

Total combined record: 82-88-2, 47.67 win%

Will you look at that, the Pats wins came against better teams. Oh my.

Colts were BAD then and capitalized off an easy 2nd half schedule. Houston started 0-3 and did the same. Without those rallies KC is the only win and they needed to hang on after having a big early lead.
 

Harry22

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Colts were BAD then and capitalized off an easy 2nd half schedule. Houston started 0-3 and did the same. Without those rallies KC is the only win and they needed to hang on after having a big early lead.

Whatever I say, you will say something to turn it FOR your argument. Enjoy the game dude.
 

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That would make the Pats 4-0 against playoff teams, iirc no other team this year went undefeated against playoff teams...

Nobody thought Indy would be a playoff team, they weren't at that point. Houston also started poorly although they were expected to be one but they didn't start how they ended up.
 

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Schedule arguments are dumb because the NFL isn't static. Teams go from bad to good in a year and vice versa.

Outside of what, Buffalo and Miami getting lucky one year with basically the same rosters the AFC East has been static. The out of division schedule matters. Buffalo only went 3-3 in division but they went 3-1 against each division they played. AFC West and NFC South. Now those divisions got 3 teams in, Buffalo beat 2 of them and they barely beat out SD who crushed them. The AFC South regressed this year, so that 3-1 sounds about right, KC got a little better this year due to the QB which probably could have made the difference between a 6 point loss to a win. Just interesting to look at. Not that the two have a true correlation or anything. AFC South had as many playoff teams as the West this year, I think thoe division are about on par. NFC South is better than the North. Only one playoff team for both though this year.
 

Habsawce

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Chargers wins:

- Buffalo (6-10)
- San Francisco (4-12)
- Oakland (4-12)
- Cleveland (7-8-1)
- Tennessee (9-7)
- Seattle (10-6)
- Oakland again (4-12)
- Arizona (3-13)
- Pittsburgh (9-6-1)
- Cincinnati (6-10)
- Kansas City (12-4)
- Denver (6-10)

Total combined record: 80-110-2, 41.67 win%

Hardly a hard schedule. You like to scoff at the Pats win against KC so let me do the same to the Chargers win against them.

Now lets look at the Pats wins:

- Houston (11-5)
- Miami (7-9)
- Indianapolis (10-6)
- Kansas City (12-4)
- Chicago (12-4)
- Buffalo (6-10)
- Green Bay (6-9-1)
- Jets (4-12)
- Minnesota (8-7-1)
- Buffalo (6-10)
- Jets (4-12)

Total combined record: 82-88-2, 47.67 win%

Will you look at that, the Pats wins came against better teams. Oh my.

Chargers win against KC was a joke anyway. Phantom DPI in the end zone and a blatant push off on the TD. While I like the Chargers and originally had them beating NE, I've come off that thought. All the travel, plus weather and the Pats being at home, I think they win and win by 10.

Although I do think the Chargers are a very good team. It's just damn near impossible to go through all that travel, time zones and weather and beat a team like NE in the playoffs.
 

David Suzuki

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It must be tiring being a Pats hater. They have the best stretch of football in the history of the league (19 seasons, 8 conference championships and 5 titles) and you still find a way to tone down their achievements. So pardon me if I don't trust your judgement when you are toning down their season this year.

Cheated their way to their first superbowl.
 

DangleCity

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I could definitely see Gronk being able to pull it together for one game after having a couple weeks off and basically the last game and half of the regular season. Dont sleep on Gronk this week.
 

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Pats fans are funny. Most of them can't recall what it was like in the 90's or prior. Before Bellichick they had like 5 coaches in 10 years. What's going on is an anomaly. McDainel's is stupid to want that job. I don't care if Kraft has kids who will take over, he's like 80. The long term prospects are not likely good. They are not gunna remain on top just because they are the Patriots. The greatness is about to leave. I don't think most of the fanbase gets this. It's NOT this easy.
I've heard out too lunch comments like this since 2014.
 

Harry22

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Brady was done at halftime of Super Bowl LI. Ah no wait not yet.

Brady was done after a shaky start last year. Ah no not yet.

Brady is definitely done now. Right?
 
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