Prospect Info: 2018-2019 WJC Thread

[BenedictGomez]

Hockey is a top 5-6 sport worldwide in total fans

FACT CHECK: False

Soccer
Golf
Tennis
Cricket
Rugby
Basketball
Running (Track & Field)
Ping-Pong (seriously)
Swimming
Skiing (downhill)

Those are just some of them off the top of my head, I'm sure I'm probably missing some.

 

[JimEIV]

PP failed the US

 

[TheUnseenHand]

FACT CHECK: False

Soccer
Golf
Tennis
Cricket
Rugby
Basketball
Running (Track & Field)
Ping-Pong (seriously)
Swimming
Skiing (downhill)

Those are just some of them off the top of my head, I'm sure I'm probably missing some.

Do you have data to back up this claim? Soccer I give you. I'd like to see some numbers on the rest. Not people who play the sport either, but fans.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

PP failed the US

Big time. And Finland's goalie was very good.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

FACT CHECK: False

Soccer
Golf
Tennis
Cricket
Rugby
Basketball
Running (Track & Field)
Ping-Pong (seriously)
Swimming
Skiing (downhill)

Those are just some of them off the top of my head, I'm sure I'm probably missing some.

Golf...? Not even close.

Athletics includes Skiing, swimming, running, so those are all one

Only ones ahead im pretty sure are Cricket, Soccer, Field Hockey, Basketball, Athletics, Tennis, and Rugby. Still a top 10 sport so my point stands

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Do you have data to back up this claim? Soccer I give you. I'd like to see some numbers on the rest. Not people who play the sport either, but fans.

Cricket and Basketball are WAY ahead. Cricket's 2015 World Cup is the most viewed sporting event ever, including World Cups of soccer, when it was India vs Pakistan. Fun factt for ya

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Wow, that bracket next year. Yikes.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Do you have data to back up this claim? Soccer I give you. I'd like to see some numbers on the rest. Not people who play the sport either, but fans.

No. Most of them are honestly common sense. Hockey doesnt have nearly the number of "fans" as hockey fans think it does.

If I'm wrong on any of those, I admit I may have been reaching on Ping-Pong, but I say that as an educated guess as it's one of the most popular sports in Asia, and the Chinese alone have 1B people, then there's Thailand, Vietnam, Bangladesh, Malaysia, etc.... hugely popular throughout.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Cricket and Basketball are WAY ahead. Cricket's 2015 World Cup is the most viewed sporting event ever, including World Cups of soccer, when it was India vs Pakistan. Fun factt for ya

I believe it, just like to see data when people start making claims. There is no doubt many sports are ahead of hockey worldwide.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Golf...? Not even close.

Golf has WAY more total fans than ice hockey. It's, "not even close" - honestly, just THINK about that one for a moment and I'm sure you're quickly take that back!

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

I believe it, just like to see data when people start making claims. There is no doubt many sports are ahead of hockey worldwide.

If Hockey can tap into the asian market like theyre trying to - it could leap into a top 3-5 sport.

Soccer, Cricket, and Basketball engulf major-sized countries like India, China, Pakistan, Brazil, etc etc..

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Golf has WAY more total fans than ice hockey. It's, "not even close" - honestly, just THINK about that one for a moment and I'm sure you're quickly take that back!

I have stats to support otherwise!

25 World's Most Popular Sports (Ranked by 13 factors)

Hockey being the biggest winter sport is a big boost. Also Golf is everywhere while Hockey is not, so Hockey has a LOT more untapped potential

 

[BenedictGomez]

I have stats to support otherwise!

No, you dont, because you didnt actually read the link you posted. lol

Here's an actual list by total fans, which is what we're talking about.

The Most Popular Sports in the World

1) Soccer
2) Cricket
3) Field Hockey (who knew)
4) Tennis
5) Volleyball (this one is obvious, cant believe I didnt think of it)
6) Ping-Pong (I knew it!!!!!)
7) Basketball
8) Baseball
9) Rugby
10) Golf


The list ends at #10, but Ice hockey predictably aint on it.

 

[Darkauron]

How about we not about the popularity of sports over other ones?

Glsd Smith did pretty well and happy for Aarney. He was a lot more impressive than I expected this tournament Can't wait to see him in the pros eventually

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

No, you dont, because you didnt actually read the link you posted. lol

Here's an actual list by total fans, which is what we're talking about.

The Most Popular Sports in the World

1) Soccer
2) Cricket
3) Field Hockey (who knew)
4) Tennis
5) Volleyball (this one is obvious, cant believe I didnt think of it)
6) Ping-Pong (I knew it!!!!!)
7) Basketball
8) Baseball
9) Rugby
10) Golf


The list ends at #10, but Ice hockey predictably aint on it.

Why the tone?

And that list has no actual stats to show what its based on. Ill trust the list that shows me how they came to the conclusion, not one that just lists numbers... and has VOLLEYBALL as a top 5 sport lmfao.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

but anyway f*** other sports GO AARNE!!

 

[TheUnseenHand]

What happened to Kakko that he had a bloody nose with a full cage?

 

[devilsfan35]

What happened to Kakko that he had a bloody nose with a full cage?

His bloody nose came from the celebration

 

[BenedictGomez]

And that list has no actual stats to show what its based on. Ill trust the list that shows me how they came to the conclusion, not one that just lists numbers... and has VOLLEYBALL as a top 5 sport lmfao.

You're not thinking about it mathematically, you're thinking about it emotionally. There are more large nations that play volleyball than ice hockey.

You kind of need, well... ice to play ice hockey, that automatically impedes its' play in much of the world, which brings down fan count.

For instance, Brazil alone has > 200M people, and volleyball is massive there. America has 325M people, but few of us give a ratz azz about hockey! Canada's population is small. Sweden's population is small. Finland's population is smaller than New Jersey. Do you see how this is panning out mathematically?

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

You're not thinking about it mathematically, you're thinking about it emotionally. There are more large nations that play volleyball than ice hockey.

You kind of need, well... ice to play ice hockey, that automatically impedes its' play in much of the world, which brings down fan count. For instance, Brazil alone has > 200M people, and volleyball is massive there. America has 325M people, and few of us give a ratz azz about hockey! Canada's population is small. Sweden's population is small. Finland's population is smaller than New Jersey. Do you see how this is panning out mathematically?

I dont doubt Volleyball is extremely popular, but I very much doubt it is more popular than basketball which has INFESTED the entire Asian market the last three decades, for example. Also Rugby is played by some pretty major countries and Id put it higher too.

But lets not derail this too far, Hockeys the best sport of em all anyway!

 

[HBK27]

Happy for Talvitie - was rooting for Finland to see him win (and I am still bitter Walsh was left off Team USA). Great game.

 

[BurntToast]

Happy for Talvitie - was rooting for Finland to see him win (and I am still bitter Walsh was left off Team USA). Great game.

I hardly ever root against the US even in a junior tournament, but the Talvitie show was too good. I feel strongly Walsh would of been one of the top defenseman for the US and for that they get what they get.

 

[Devils Dominion]

I'm highly concerned that Talvitie played on an injured knee and made it worse

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

 

[Devils Dominion]

It matters for the long term health of his knee