2018-2019 Roster Discussion - Official Roster is In

[Jakey53]

IMO yes.

Who would you trade? Demers would be a throw in, if the Leafs would even want him. We are not good trading partners with the Leafs.

 

[rt]

So does it make sense to go after Nylander now? Demers + ? + ?

Those pluses need to be pretty damn big to bridge that gap IMO.

Who would you trade? Demers would be a throw in, if the Leafs would even want him. We are not good trading partners with the Leafs.

Demers+POJ+Merkley+1st*+2nd*

*2019 1st slides to 2020 if pick is top 10
*2nd whichever of 2019 or 2020 the 1st isn’t

 

[Mosby]

Thoughts on getting Zach Smith to fill Dvo's spot at C?

Panik for Smith gets the dollars pretty close. Or maybe something like Random 4th liner for Smith with max retention. Not sure Ottawa wants to retain dollars though.

 

[Mosby]

Demers+POJ+Merkley+1st*+2nd*

*2019 1st slides to 2020 if pick is top 10
*2nd whichever of 2019 or 2020 the 1st isn’t

2020 1st needs to be untouchable if we're planning a Matthews offer sheet.

 

[Jakey53]

Demers+POJ+Merkley+1st*+2nd*

*2019 1st slides to 2020 if pick is top 10
*2nd whichever of 2019 or 2020 the 1st isn’t

I don't trade our 1st. With our luck, it turns into 1OA
We have to be patient here. With Chucky coming back lets see what happens.

 

[Jakey53]

2020 1st needs to be untouchable if we're planning a Matthews offer sheet.

We won't, and even if we do, Matthews will decline.

 

[rt]

2020 1st needs to be untouchable if we're planning a Matthews offer sheet.

Matthews is worth more than our franchise. This is an insane dream.

 

[rt]

I don't trade our 1st. With our luck, it turns into 1OA
We have to be patient here. With Chucky coming back lets see what happens.

You mean the 2020 first?

 

[Jakey53]

Thoughts on getting Zach Smith to fill Dvo's spot at C?

Panik for Smith gets the dollars pretty close. Or maybe something like Random 4th liner for Smith with max retention. Not sure Ottawa wants to retain dollars though.

How about if we just hold court here and stay pat. With Chucky coming back we will have 4 capable NHL C's with a couple others who can fill in.

 

[Mosby]

Matthews is worth more than our franchise. This is an insane dream.

Still, no reason to close that door beforehand.

 

[Jakey53]

You mean the 2020 first?

Either.

 

[rt]

Still, no reason to close that door beforehand.

I would put the odds of us being in Arizona with enough cash to afford Matthews at about 1% - that’s not factoring in his interest (low) or likely availability (lower). I think the odds of the 20-21 year being a lame duck season before a move to Houston are better than 50%.

 

[YotesFan47]

Demers+POJ+Merkley+1st*+2nd*

*2019 1st slides to 2020 if pick is top 10
*2nd whichever of 2019 or 2020 the 1st isn’t

I'd have a hard time pulling the trigger on that but it would give us top 6 RW with the ability to spot full C.

 

[BlazingBlueAnt]

Thoughts on getting Zach Smith to fill Dvo's spot at C?

Panik for Smith gets the dollars pretty close. Or maybe something like Random 4th liner for Smith with max retention. Not sure Ottawa wants to retain dollars though.

Zack smith isn't really much better than Richardson. Just run Galcnehyuk a full year at center and see what we have there

 

[SniperHF]

ust run Galcnehyuk a full year at center and see what we have there

He can't possibly be worse than Nick Cousins
So yeah he's sticking at C one way or another with Dvorak's situation I think.
When Dvorak's timeline was initially ahead I thought he might lose the opportunity until next camp but not anymore.

 

[EXTRAS]

What is dvoraks upside?

 

[Bonsai Tree]

What is dvoraks upside?

Good 200 foot two way center who can skate.

 

[XX]

What is dvoraks upside?

Stepan

 

[RemoAZ]

He can't possibly be worse than Nick Cousins
So yeah he's sticking at C one way or another with Dvorak's situation I think.
When Dvorak's timeline was initially ahead I thought he might lose the opportunity until next camp but not anymore.

Cousins is cemented in the lineup as long as Tocc is here. He's proven that and he'll try to move Cousins up whenever he can even if it hurts the little offense we have. It's insane the attachment these coaches have with marginal players. I'd have no problem with the coach liking guys like Cousins or Tipchura if they'd just use them in the role their talent warrants. Trying to force them up in the lineup when anyone with any sense can see it hurts the team is mind boggling. Throw in the fact that you keep f***ing with Strome to give Cousins opportunities when Strome is finally showing signs he might actually develop into the player they hoped when drafting him makes it just incredibly stupid.

 

[Mosby]

Cousins is definitely the new Chipchura. Everyone coach seems to have one of these players somehow.

 

[Imaravencawcaw]

What is dvoraks upside?

Stepan

He put up consecutive seasons of 109 and 121 points in the OHL and then 15 goals each of his two NHL years so I'd hope he could be better than Stepan. Hopefully Stepan is his floor and he's maybe 10+ points better.

 

[rt]

Perlini+Demers+++ for Nylander. Please?

 

[Mosby]

What’s the absolute max contract you’d give Nylander? Year and dollars.

 

[moosemeister]

What’s the absolute max contract you’d give Nylander? Year and dollars.

8x8

 

[rt]

What’s the absolute max contract you’d give Nylander? Year and dollars.

Well, since he wasn’t on our team last year, the longest we could do would be 7yrs. He’d be 29 at the end. Alex Tuch just got a 7yr deal and he and Nylander were born one month apart.

Nylander’s numbers:
NHL-185gp 135pts .73ppg
AHL-75gp 77pts 1.03ppg

Tuch’s numbers:
NHL-84gp 37pts .44ppg
AHL-60gp 42ptz .70ppg

I think if Tuch gets a 7yr deal, then Nylander could get a 7yr deal. I’m okay with him at 7yrs.

So why about the money?

I’d be okay with 50 million. It’s 50% more than what Tuch got. It’s inline with what Evander Kane got. It’s a similar situation to Johnny Hockey’s last deal.