Prospect Info: 2018-2019 In The System: Springfield Thunderbirds, CHL, NCAA, Europe, etc.

[danktopshelf]

That kids wrister is Sakic-like leathal, IMO.

I think the bottom-line question regarding Tippett is this: Do you move him for immediate defensive help and keep the proven asset in Hoffman, or do you move Hoffman for immediate defensive help and keep the "potential" asset in Tippett? Ahhhh such is the life of a GM and his job, lol.

Move Hoffman. Tippett's gonna be a player

 

[Ghoste]

-ghoste

 

[MintyFresh88]

Move Hoffman. Tippett's gonna be a player

Keep Hoff in a contract year, let Tippett play a year in the AHL. Then, if Hoff walks, if all goes to plan Tippett is the replacement in 20-21.

 

[Chaos2k7]

Keep Hoff in a contract year, let Tippett play a year in the AHL. Then, if Hoff walks, if all goes to plan Tippett is the replacement in 20-21.

Tipp needs a half year at least ala Borg

 

[Mase]

Keep Hoff in a contract year, let Tippett play a year in the AHL. Then, if Hoff walks, if all goes to plan Tippett is the replacement in 20-21.

An if Tippett is the ask from The Peg for Trouba?

 

[FinlandPanther]

An if Tippett is the ask from The Peg for Trouba?

It would hurt but we should do it. Trouba is outstanding and nasty.

 

[Mase]

It would hurt but we should do it. Trouba is outstanding and nasty.

Yes it would hurt....and yes I would do it, as well.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Yes it would hurt....and yes I would do it, as well.

We haven’t had a guy like Trouba in forever who can beat the shit out of guys up and down the ice. Not to mention he has a bomb.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

An if Tippett is the ask from The Peg for Trouba?

Most WPG don't want a winger as the main asset in a trade, they are stocked there. It's a C or RD they want

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Most WPG don't want a winger as the main asset in a trade, they are stocked there. It's a C or RD they want

I don't think it's that big of a deal. That's more armchair GMing than anything by Jets fans. If the value is there I bet Chevy pulls the trigger whether it's a winger or C or whatever, he can always flip guys around.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

I don't think it's that big of a deal. That's more armchair GMing than anything by Jets fans. If the value is there I bet Chevy pulls the trigger whether it's a winger or C or whatever, he can always flip guys around.

Good point. Don't see where they can fit a C anyhow unless they move Little who just signed a longterm deal. What do they do with Hayes? Can they afford to let both him and Stastny walk giving up valued picks. I wouldn't cave for WPG demands. Feel the 2019 1st/Denisneko + Pysyk + 2020 2nd for Trouba is fair. Pretty standard value for a guy that is a year away from UFA. If Trouba hits UFA, we would have a good chance at him anyhow without giving up assets.

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Good point. Don't see where they can fit a C anyhow unless they move Little who just signed a longterm deal. What do they do with Hayes? Can they afford to let both him and Stastny walk giving up valued picks. I wouldn't cave for WPG demands. Feel the 2019 1st/Denisneko + Pysyk + 2020 2nd for Trouba is fair. Pretty standard value for a guy that is a year away from UFA. If Trouba hits UFA, we would have a good chance at him anyhow without giving up assets.

Trouba can force their arm pretty hard now. If he goes to arbitration the second time I could see them very well pull the trigger on something like that, Pysyk would be a third pairing replacement for them and the first rounder always has value especially a top 15 one.

To me that's a totally sound offer.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Trouba can force their arm pretty hard now. If he goes to arbitration the second time I could see them very well pull the trigger on something like that, Pysyk would be a third pairing replacement for them and the first rounder always has value especially a top 15 one.

To me that's a totally sound offer.

Tried to explain that to their fans but they obviously want HIGH value just as we would want the same if it was Ekblad.
Stone went for 15th overall D man, now Brannstrom is legit, so is Denisenko.
Trouba has more value because of the full year so Pysyk and 2nd/3rd rounder fills the gap.

Someone gotta tweet Dale this stuff

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Tried to explain that to their fans but they obviously want HIGH value just as we would want the same if it was Ekblad.
Stone went for 15th overall D man, now Brannstrom is legit, so is Denisenko.
Trouba has more value because of the full year so Pysyk and 2nd/3rd rounder fills the gap.

Someone gotta tweet Dale this stuff

Yeah but Ek isn't going anywhere whereas Trouba probably is leaving anyway. I don't see a lot of leverage based on the history Trouba has with the Jets. He also wants 7-8 million, there's a lot of value just soaking up that cap space for a team that doesn't have it.

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and soaking up cap space for any team is valuable.

the Smith trade should be a prime example of that.

I think the Jets fans will be disappointed with the return.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Yeah but Ek isn't going anywhere whereas Trouba probably is leaving anyway. I don't see a lot of leverage based on the history Trouba has with the Jets. He also wants 7-8 million, there's a lot of value just soaking up that cap space for a team that doesn't have it.

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and soaking up cap space for any team is valuable.

the Smith trade should be a prime example of that.

I think the Jets fans will be disappointed with the return.

Oh I agree Ek isn't leaving, just meant if we knew he was not sticking around like Trouba.

We've seen what the going rate for a top 2-3 D in McDonaugh and I'm sure Trouba will be similar. His list of teams to re-sign will really limit Chevy's options. 6-7 teams max.

As much as I like WPGs makeup, they dont look as good this year. They may not even make it out of 1st/2nd round this year and that may be enough for Trouba to bounce..STL looks legit right now. I wouldn't wanna play them 1st round.

Anywho, @SoupyFIN is gonna kill me for derailing this thread, head over to offseason one to chat.

 

[Chaos2k7]

Statsny signed in Vegas

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

@letsgrowcactus , Big Christmas is finally shooting and scoring, two goals tonight (2nd and 3rd), Generals trying to avoid going down 3-0 in the series and currently up 4-1 late in 3rd period. Noel knows how to celly!! 3g and 7pts in 7 games.



Tippett has a goal and two assists tonight (now has 9g/17pts in 7 games) in a wild game where SSM was up 3-0 then SAG scored 5 of the next 7 goals to make it 5-5. Tippett assisted on the 6-5 go ahead goal by shooting wide intentionally and his teammate cleaned up the rebound and then scored the EN goal to make it 7-5.
Saginaw looking to go up 3-0 in the series and probably end up facing London for the West final

 

[vendetta]

Noel having a great game tonight. A couple of
Sweet setups

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Noel have another solid night, set up two goals for two assists (3g/9pts in 8 games) and his Generals have tied the series at 2 a piece.

Tippett and the Spirit lose 3-0, Saginaw up 3-1 in the series.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Noel having a great game tonight. A couple of
Sweet setups

Have a feeling this kid will be a special player for us. Bottom one is a SH goal.

 

[MintyFresh88]

You gotta think between Tippett, Hepo, Noel and Denisenko that at least one or two will be impact players for us hopefully. 60+ point guys. Noel may not have the same offensive ceiling, but he seems to have a pretty well rounded skill set.

 

[BabyBennettov]

You gotta think between Tippett, Hepo, Noel and Denisenko that at least one or two will be impact players for us hopefully. 60+ point guys. Noel may not have the same offensive ceiling, but he seems to have a pretty well rounded skill set.

Yeah ! That's why we have to trade one of them now asap for some defenceman...

For those who don't know my opinion yet, that was sarcasm.

 

[EnforceTheLaus]

You gotta think between Tippett, Hepo, Noel and Denisenko that at least one or two will be impact players for us hopefully. 60+ point guys. Noel may not have the same offensive ceiling, but he seems to have a pretty well rounded skill set.

Tippett is 100% ready. His really matured this year and I would be shocked if he doesn't make the team. Noel is getting there, but I think he does start in the NHL. Hepo could go wither way but I'm fine if tries one more Liga campaign or comes to the AHL.

 

[Generalsupdates]

In a series that has Jason Robertson, Jack Studnicka, Ivan Lodnia, Allan McShane, Ben Jones, Anthony Salinitri, Brandon Saigeon, Akil Thomas etc, Serron Noel has been BY FAR the best player in each of the last 2 games. He's attacking with such speed and has been increasingly physical. Also 2 great passes last night for assists, and should've had a 3rd

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

In a series that has Jason Robertson, Jack Studnicka, Ivan Lodnia, Allan McShane, Ben Jones, Anthony Salinitri, Brandon Saigeon, Akil Thomas etc, Serron Noel has been BY FAR the best player in each of the last 2 games. He's attacking with such speed and has been increasingly physical. Also 2 great passes last night for assists, and should've had a 3rd

Ya hes been way more confident this year! Just updated his prospect page! Keeping an eye on him and Tippett.

Anything he truly needs to work on outside getting stronger and skating (not that he hasnt improved but you can always work on it)?