VinikToWinIt
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I wish we had signed Tavares for the sole purpose of photoshopping his head into Durant's infamous "My Next Chapter" picture.
Maybe we can put Karlsson on there for the hell of it.
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Maybe we can put Karlsson on there for the hell of it.
VinikToWinIt
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I like this too. We could switch from a picture of Kucherov scoring to a crudely drawn stick figure wearing the number 86 when the text switches to "...on paper".
J T Money
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These Are The Days
Oh no! We suck again!!
These Are The Days
Oh no! We suck again!!
Good to see Palat get going. Depth scoring has fallen off a bit lately. Next on the list are Yani and JT.
dbieon12
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Just a reminder to enjoy this season. There are still likely downs, injuries, and disappointments but the team seems more focused than ever before.
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I want "Shit Dom Says..." as our playoff meme. Everyone on HF knows how legendary it is.
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I was just thinking. What do you guys think about trying to grab Ferland from Carolina? Ferland has hands, speed, and a monster on the ice. A line with Ferland - Ceddy - Miller would be skilled, hard hitting, and tough to play against in the playoffs. Ferland only makes 1.75 this year and is a UFA at the end of the year. Ferland is a tougher Erne right now.
We would have to move a forward to fit him in, or someone (most likely Cally) would be on IR by the deadline or playoffs time. I wouldn't know what Carolina would want, he is scoring at a good cut right now too.
What do you guys think?
We would have to move a forward to fit him in, or someone (most likely Cally) would be on IR by the deadline or playoffs time. I wouldn't know what Carolina would want, he is scoring at a good cut right now too.
What do you guys think?
Just like Simmonds the price will be a 1st/2nd +. For one we can't really even trade either because of the Rangers condition. The other thing is that's a lot for a 4th liner. Does he or Simmonds produce the same if put in Erne spot? Erne is producing really well his points per 60 are close to Ferland, while getting no top 6 time and less PP, and way above Simmonds. Joseph is way above Simmonds as well and not that far behind Ferland with not favorable minutes either. If we are moving a 1st + Katchouk type prospect, go for a Duchene, Panarin type home run and stack the 3rd line then you have Cirelli and Joseph killing it on the 4th. We have JT Miller on our 4th line already as a luxury, we don't need another one.
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Do you honestly think the price of Ferland with be a 1st + ? Honestly, I don't think Carolina wants picks. Probably closer to ready prospects. Which we have a ton of to offer.
Yes, he's one of the top deadline pieces available. There's a chance Duchene, Panarin or Stone are resigned so not available. That leaves guys like Ferland, Simmonds and Brassard as the best options and at the deadline the price goes up. He's not worth it but someone might pay it. I would avoid those players and look at cheaper depth like Panik, Kruger or Vanek who could be had for much less.
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If that is the right ask, that is way too rich for my blood. Still doesn't change the idea that I like the idea of his play style on the team.
The Macho King
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Simmonds disappears for long stretches. I'm not a huge fan of his honestly.
He's also slow as shit.
He's also slow as shit.
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For a supposed tough guy he's not particularly noticeable either. You know when guys like Reaves or even Tom Wilson are on the ice - Simmonds is not that guy, at least not anymore.
If we're looking for a depth guy that can be a net-front presence then Boyle would be a better fit and cheaper, although I really don't think this team needs to make moves at the deadline.
He has more hits per game than any other forward besides Paquette but he also plays more than Erne or Joseph so those guys would be closer if they had his minutes. He's also played with Aho, Teravainen, Guadreau and Monahan a lot the last two years which has helped his production. Think he's a bottom 6 guy for us and as a LW we already have Killorn who is just as good or Miller can move up. We just need a 4th liner who can PK like Callahan so if Callahan gets hurt we have insurance for him.
If we are trading a 1st + Katchouk type and are looking for a physical bottom 6 presence I'd look at Lawon Crouse from Arizona. He's 10 years younger than a Simmonds and is a more physical presence. Still developing so he could still become a 20-20 guy. That's what I would target is a younger guy with potential.
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My main objection on Simmonds is how streaky he is. He's the prototypical powerforward dominating opponents physically and on the scoresheet at times, only to completely disappear and coast in other games. Playstyle resulting in minor injuries and fatigue might play a role. Lack of foot speed is another issue, as our team is super fast and feeding off counter rushes and (semi-)breakaways.
On the other hand, when on, he's an effective player who provides a wide array of weapons (net presence, scoring, hitting, fighting). When comparing him to current Lightning players keep in mind the Flyers are a way worse team. His stats would arguably be better on a line with our top-6 forwards or with the "top-7" line, hell even with Paquette.
On the other hand, when on, he's an effective player who provides a wide array of weapons (net presence, scoring, hitting, fighting). When comparing him to current Lightning players keep in mind the Flyers are a way worse team. His stats would arguably be better on a line with our top-6 forwards or with the "top-7" line, hell even with Paquette.
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Nikita Kucherov has back-to-back 100 point seasons and three top-3 scoring finishes in a row... ...On paper.
I wouldn't mind him as a depth player. I think he'd add something we don't currently have, and the kind of gritty goal-scoring we seem to have been missing at times in previous post-seasons.
That said, I don't think I'd want to outbid other teams for him. I think somebody's gonna overpay and I'd rather it not be us. We're poised to compete for the foreseeable future, and I'd rather not gamble too much of that future on anybody who's not a sure thing. ...And I don't really believe in Sure Things when it comes to the TDL, so...
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Worrying about jinxing is what's jinxing us.The playoff avatars about 2019 Stanley Cup Champs might be fun, but they scare me a bit as they seem to be tempting the hockey gods/powers of jinxing waaaaay too much!
I really like the "...on paper" or "...but no cup" ones better.
The Macho King
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So does this mean I can wear my Hedman jersey again?
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